[THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)

Not having had any experience with NAV at all[1] but is the download
available via FTP at all?   When we were running MacAfee I wrote a number of
scripts that automated a manual process to check for and download updates
from their FTP site and then update all critical boxes. There was a
management console that was supposed to allow you to automate everything but
was pain to get it to work - a lot quicker and simpler to write a few
scripts. If the updates are available via ftp it would not be too hard to do
something similar.

In the case of VET[2] because the program is not running in resident mode we
schedule a script to run their auto update program.

I agree that a totally manual process is useless though you do need to be
able to quickly update your anti virus utilities is there is an outbreak
between whatever update schedules you have set.  We often get several copies
of a new virus stopped by our mimesweeper box before the anti virus software
on our smtp gateway[3] starts stopping it.

-Ec

1 though admins whose opinions I respect do speak highly of it
2 which we run on our Mimesweeper box
3 Set to check for updates every four hours



-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Durbin [mailto:techlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, 12 February 2004 8:24 a.m.
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)


Thanks for that information. That's great, but it's a manual process. Just
what you want to do every day: go to Symantec's page, download and save a
file, and then update every machine in a network (or a bunch of networks): 

To download the Intelligent Updater and update the virus definitions 
Go to the Symantec virus definitions download page. 
Select the appropriate language and product. 
If you have the retail version of Norton AntiVirusT, then click "Norton
AntiVirus for Windows 9x/NT/ME/2000/XP," and then click the "Download
Updates" button. 
If you have one of the Enterprise Symantec antivirus programs, then click
your program and then click the "Download Updates" button.
To start the download, click the first file in the list under "Filename."
The file will start with the year and look similar to the following:

20040205-005-i32.exe

Click Save. 
At the next dialog box, save the file to the Desktop and click Save. 
After the file is downloaded, close Internet Explorer, and any other running
software programs. 
Double-click the file that was saved to the desktop. The virus definitions
will be updated.


  I can't believe this product is so popular - you have to update it
manually every day to be fully protected, and even then, it doesn't find all
the viruses. I suppose this is an example of the effectiveness of marketing.
I'm through with NAV at this point.

JD


 

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Lennart Koschella
Sent: Thursday, 12 February 2004 1:15 a.m.
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)

techlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

>I'm telling this just to throw the information out there. What I'm 
>concerned about though, is the dates on the virus defs. I scanned them 
>on the 9th, and the virus defs were dated the 4th. Aren't there new 
>viruses produced every day? If so, wouldn't you want a vendor that 
>updates every day? Anyone else seen these problems with NAV?

There is a LiveUpdate from 9 February, but we have the same concerns here. 
However, Symantec offers two update mechanisms: "LiveUpdate" and
"Intelligent Updater". They write on their website: "LiveUpdate definitions
are updated weekly, except for major outbreaks, when definitions are updated
more often [...] Intelligent Updater is updated daily during the work week."
(look at
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/sharedtech.nsf/docid/2002021908382713?O
penDocument&src=sec_web_nam)



With kind regards,

Lennart Koschella
System Adminstrator
University Hospital Tuebingen/Germany

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