[THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
- From: Henry Sieff <hsieff@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:37:54 -0600
symdefsi32.exe is the whole thing.
symdefsi321, 2, and 3 are the updates broken up into smaller chunks.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Minero Hector B DLVA [mailto:MineroHB@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 12:27 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
>
>
> I went to ftp.symantec.com and have the following question:
> what's the difference btween symcdefsi32.exe and symcdefsi321.exe?
>
> I have Corporate Edition version 8.0
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Angus Macdonald [mailto:Angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 11:09 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
>
>
> Many thanks for that. It should save me a load of time.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Evan Mann [mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 12 February 2004 14:41
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
>
>
>
> Sample defsgetter.bat:
>
> ftp -s:c:\cescript.txt
> call "%systemdrive%\symcdefsi32.exe" /q
> del /q %systemdrive%\symcdefsi32.exe
>
> And here is the cescript.txt that the .bat calls:
>
> open ftp.symantec.com
> anonymous
> joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> cd
> public/english_us_canada/antivirus_definitions/norton_antivirus/static
> lcd C:\
> bin
> prompt
> get symcdefsi32.exe
> quit
>
> Schedule via AT.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Angus Macdonald
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:37 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
>
>
> Do you happen to have the ftp site address handy? I've only ever been
> able to find the daily updates on http. Regards Angus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Evan Mann [mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 12 February 2004 13:20
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
>
>
> For as long as I can remember, Symantec has put out LiveUpdate
> definitions ONLY on WEDNESDAY's. This is on their website. They ONLY
> release a LiveUpdate version when there is a MAJOR virus
> outbrake, such
> as MyDoom, and previous viruses such as Nimda.
>
> However, EVERY DAY they put out an intelligent updater with revised
> Definitions as necessary. This is available via FTP. Symantec has a
> few sample scripts to download this, but it's just a text file and a
> .bat file which has FTP.EXE call the text file to run
> unattended. Anyone
> can write their own script. I don't recall the time they release it,
> but it is always published at the same time each day.
>
> I think Symantec should build an automatic download of the Inteligent
> Updater into the Corporate/Enterprise products, because these
> environments should be updated daily and not have to wait for the Wed
> update or a major outbreak, but until they do that, all you have to do
> is schedule the FTP download with AT on your parent server(s) and it
> will push down to every sub-server and client.
>
> So anyways, Symantec DOES have an update every day, you just have to
> schedule to get it yourself. DO NOT rely on LiveUpdate. Most admins
> who have used NAV CE/Enterprise over the years know about
> this and have
> know about this, and they are getting daily updated.
>
> And FWIW, SAV 8.1 Corp/Enterprise work just fine on Win2003, and have
> since Win2003 came out, and since 8.1 came out, which was prior to the
> gold release of 2003 Server.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Chris Lynch
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 10:32 PM
> To: lynch00@xxxxxxx; thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
>
>
> =3D20
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> While this is true, I have found the same case. It seems as if the
> quality of Symantec's AV products are becoming more and more
> useless. I
> have permanently made the switch to Trend Micro AV products
> (which I was
> a big proponent of Symantec AV products). I just finished moving a
> friends network from SAV 8.0 CE to Trend Micro
> OfficeScan/ServerProtect/ScanMail,
> all controlled from the Trend Micro Control Manager. A very
> nice tool.
> All access via HTTP. Reporting is SO much better than SAV.
> Version 3.0
> of TMCM is supposed to be so much better, and better reporting
> capabilities, and work on Windows Server 2003 (to be released Feb 16).
>
> Chris Lynch
> lynch00@xxxxxxx=3D20
>
> - - -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Lennart Koschella
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 4:15 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
>
> techlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> >I'm telling this just to throw the information out there. What I'm=20
> >concerned about though, is the dates on the virus defs. I scanned=20
> >them=3D20 on the 9th, and the virus defs were dated the 4th. Aren't =
> there
>
> >new=3D20 viruses produced every day? If so, wouldn't you
> want a vendor=20
> >that=3D20 updates every day? Anyone else seen these problems
> with NAV?
>
> There is a LiveUpdate from 9 February, but we have the same concerns
> here.=3D20 However, Symantec offers two update mechanisms:
> "LiveUpdate"
> and "Intelligent Updater". They write on their website: "LiveUpdate
> definitions are updated weekly, except for major outbreaks, when
> definitions are updated more often [...] Intelligent Updater
> is updated
> daily during the work week." (look at
> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/sharedtech.nsf/docid/2002
> 0219083827
> 13?O
> penDocument&src=3D3Dsec_web_nam)
>
>
>
> With kind regards,
>
> Lennart Koschella
> System Adminstrator
> University Hospital Tuebingen/Germany
>
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