[THIN] Re: 2003 TS Perf Problem - best way to 100% find it
- From: "Jeff Durbin" <techlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:36:08 +1200
Never heard of it, but believe me, if I had been able to give my customer a
free solution to his problem rather than recommending he spend $15,000, I
would have done it.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeremy Saunders
> Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2004 3:52 p.m.
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 TS Perf Problem - best way to 100% find it
>
> If it's just CPU usage you want to clamp, try using
> ThreadMaster from here:
> http://threadmaster.tripod.com/
>
> It's freeware, and it works well.
>
> Although AppSense is a far superior product, you don't always
> need to go down the "commercial product" path. It's expensive
> and often difficult to justify to management.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeremy.
> Logicalis Australia, a division of IBM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Durbin [mailto:techlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2004 11:33 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 TS Perf Problem - best way to 100% find it
>
> I've used AppSense on production servers with good results.
> Had a farm of 10 servers running Great Plains. When the users
> would do a query and be presented the results (like a list of
> names, I think it was), the CPU would peg at 100% until they
> selected a user from the list or closed the query results
> dialog. Great Plains had no interest in fixing it, so the
> customer had to spend $15,000 to put AppSense Performance
> Manager on all of his servers. Thanks, Great Plains. AppSense
> did alleviate the symptoms, as advertised.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron Jameson
> > Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2004 1:40 p.m.
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 TS Perf Problem - bestway to 100% find it
> >
> > We tested RTScale about a month ago and it showed no improvements -
> > actually when it did one of the later optimizations - it slowed the
> > whole beast to a crawl where we had to do an emergency logout all
> > users and pull RT off.
> > That was scary.
> >
> > I disabled HT about an hour ago, updated the BIOS and
> removed the /3g
> > switch. Will see how it goes tomorrow when it starts being
> used...but
> > I have my doubts.
> >
> > I will have one of my techs check out appsense tomorrow as well.
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Rogers
> > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 10:43 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 TS Perf Problem - best way to 100% find it
> >
> > with that much mem being taken up by the accounting app per user
> > alone, it might be worthwhile looking into something like
> AppSense? I
> > seem to recall that (i think) Mr Ron Roggly ( :) ) posted
> there was a
> > util you could run on your server, you send it to them and
> they tell
> > you how much the program would help you - but I cant find
> the url now
> > :(
> >
> > On the other hand, it could possibly be the hyperthreading, isnt it
> > supposed to take quite a hard performance hit
> > (comparatively) if it guesses whats going on wrong?
> >
> > (More straws please! :) )
> >
> > Andrew
> > --o--
> >
> > >>> rjameson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 12/07/04 15:37:37 >>>
> > We have a new 2003 TS with under 50 users but we are having
> a bit of a
> > difficult time locating the source of the overall system
> slowdowns.
> > Is there a way to pinpoint the exact cause of a problem
> slowdown? The
> > programs used on the TS are office 2003, QBooks and other
> accounting
> > programs (which is the bulk - each session consuming
> 60-130mb for the
> > accounting program @ each user). From what we see, the network
> > bandwidth is non-existent, drive speed/access is low but the CPU
> > spikes randomly on this dual xeon 3ghz on a dell PE6650.
> > RAM is 3g, hyperthread enabled, RAID 1/5, all data on
> server and apps
> > loaded on TS.
> >
> > We are just about to contact a third party to pin this down
> or MS PSS
> > for I feel me are missing something here - just not sure
> what. We are
> > running the MS service perf advisor now to see if we see anything.
> > One of our techs did check the PTE and recently added the
> /3g switch
> > for checking if it helps.
> >
> >
> > Ron
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