We are trying threadmaster to throttle the CPU and stop the bleeding....for now. We spoke with the vendor of the program and they even admit they see this happen and their response was they "close the program re open". Hmmm...sounds like bad programming to me (although I am not a programmer) -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Mack Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 6:32 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 TS Perf Problem - best way to 100% find it Hi, More than a little bit of sense. The /3GB switch drops the paged pool size ceiling from 270 MB to 110 MB, so if you've got any file handle leaks etc on your system, its going to drop dead that much sooner. I wouldn't recommend you do it at all. Regards, Rick Ulrich Mack Volante Systems Ltd 18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064 Queensland Australia. Ph: +61 7 3246 7704 email: rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx web: www.volante.com.au -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lilley, Brian Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2004 12:46 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 TS Perf Problem - best way to 100% find it would make more sense to remove the 3GB switch for a TS...surely? check out the performance and optimization guides on brianmadden.com -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ron Jameson Sent: 12 July 2004 15:38 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] 2003 TS Perf Problem - best way to 100% find it We have a new 2003 TS with under 50 users but we are having a bit of a difficult time locating the source of the overall system slowdowns. Is there a way to pinpoint the exact cause of a problem slowdown? The programs used on the TS are office 2003, QBooks and other accounting programs (which is the bulk - each session consuming 60-130mb for the accounting program @ each user). From what we see, the network bandwidth is non-existent, drive speed/access is low but the CPU spikes randomly on this dual xeon 3ghz on a dell PE6650. RAM is 3g, hyperthread enabled, RAID 1/5, all data on server and apps loaded on TS. We are just about to contact a third party to pin this down or MS PSS for I feel me are missing something here - just not sure what. We are running the MS service perf advisor now to see if we see anything. One of our techs did check the PTE and recently added the /3g switch for checking if it helps. 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