Russ That is an interesting situation. Do you remember if the power supply in the Sony had two switching mosfets or not? Paul Hoyt's TV <hoytstv@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Paul, Try disconnecting the anode lead and see if it will run. I had a KV24FS100 that I repaired the power supply and replaced the HOT and it would then fire up to a lower than normal HV for a few seconds and go into shutdown. After a conversation with the Sony Tech at Fultons and doing the testing he recommended, we decided it needed a HO Transformer even though it rang OK. I put that in and it still did the same thing. That's where the customer said "uncle" and I quit working on it. A few weeks later I got in a JVC (I think) that was doing the same thing but the power supply was OK. The H wave forms looked exactly the same as what the Sony tech said indicated a bad IHVT. The two transformers appeared to be identical so I put in the new Sony one and got the same results. For some reason I decided to hook the chassis up to my test jig to see what would happen. It worked fine on the test jig. I plugged the factory yoke back in and it still worked fine and stayed on, without any vertical deflection on the test jig of course. But when I hooked it back up to it's own CRT it went into shutdown. I unhooked the anode lead and it kept running. So there must have been an anode short in the CRT. I never tried the Sony again to see if it had an anode short because I had removed all the power supply and HV parts when I quit working on it. Russ Hoyt Hoyt's TV Exeter, NH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" To: Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 2:27 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sony KV27FS100L >I don't think the vertical I/C that I replaced was bad. The problem seems >to be that the B+ never gets up to 135v. It makes about 47v then shuts down >and goes into standby. I found a dual diode that was shorted in the >secondary but it supplies the audio amp and removing it did not make any >difference in the low B+ problem. Unless the secondary needs an exact load >in order to run, I am at a loss to know what is going on. > Paul > Wayne Vanaman wrote: > I have seen a number of sets that, when the vertical IC fails it takes > out the video processor. Check for vertical drive out of the processor. > Pins 28 and 29. These are complimentary sawtooth waveforms, about > 1.2v pk-pk. > > Wayne Vanaman > Omega Electronics > 6904 W Fairfield Dr > Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310 > > Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com > > 850-456-5995 voice > 850-458-6369 fax > > > Leonard Caillouet wrote: >> Four blinks can be either vertical or horizontal or something else that >> causes the vertical output to not work. >> >> Leonard Caillouet >> Service Manager >> Electronics World >> Gainesville, FL >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Paul" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 8:39 PM >> Subject: [TechAssist] Sony KV27FS100L >> >> >> How reliable are blink codes? This set is becoming more of a problem than >> I >> first thought. The blink code is four, indicating a problem in the >> vertical >> circuit, as I suspected before getting the service manual. I replaced the >> vertical I/C as the most likely cause per the self diagnostics. Problem >> remains, that being the set tries to start but never makes enough B+ and >> goes into stand by. I removed the HOT and replaced both switching >> mosfets. >> Nothing has changed. I have checked the lytics in that circuit, and >> supply >> resistors. Nothing shorted or low to ground on the B+ line.Haven't found >> anything bad yet. When I took the back off and saw that the chassis was >> the >> one that has bad tact switches I headed there first. 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