This is so true. When I got my first wide screen PTV a year ago the stretch looked distracting.Too wide in normal station viewing on cable. I didn't want the black borders... Now I don't notice it and seems normal. Phil Philip Bader Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976) 3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880 Fax (863) 299-8821 email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx J Silverman wrote: >Your brain has been conditioned to know what a tv picture looks like, so >anything else represented as a tv picture looks "unnatural". >Jerry Silverman >Greentron Inc >4 Newland Ave >Greenville SC 29609 >Fax/Phone 864 232 3889 >mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kevin's TV Repair" <kevintv@xxxxxxx> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:32 PM >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have >onestandard ? > > > > >>A live HDTV signal looks incredible compared to NTSC. Night and day >>difference. The beauty of HDTV is you don't have to sit 30 feet away to >>hide all the faults (of cable on a large screen) so the picture looks >>"good". You can basically sit as close as your eyes will allow. >> >>As others have stated the HDTV sets do not look very good with cable, >>but the same goes for a 32" TV compared to a 42" and bigger projection >>TV. The 32" looks much better on cable. >> >>Kevin Wilks >>Kevin's TV Repair >>Penticton BC Canada >>kevintv@xxxxxxx >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hugh @ Main TV >>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:35 AM >>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have >>onestandard ? >> >>Yes, HDTV is 10 times better than old NTSC. >>www.Longmontmaintv.com >>Main TV - 636 Main St. >>Longmont, Co. 80501 >>Tel.303-776-6955 Fax 303-776-0792 >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx> >>To: "TechAssist" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:01 AM >>Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have >>onestandard >>? >> >> >> >> >>>Don't worry about it. >>>Can't kill all of us,...or the list wouldn't survive. >>> >>>I'm taking a poll. >>>Question being: >>>Do you think the new HDTV picture looks better, then the old NTSC >>> >>> >>standard >> >> >>>broadcast ? and : Is it worth changing over ? >>> >>> >>>So far it is 3 for the change over,...and 3 against. >>>Kinda surpirising to me,....I thought I was the only one,...so it made >>> >>> >>me >> >> >>>"feel better". >>>;-) >>> >>> >>>LLW >>> >>>LeRoy Westlund >>>Westlund TV & Electronics >>>97 North Main " I forgot,..to remember,.. >>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 to forget " >>>Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 >>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Phil Bader <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>Date: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:12 AM >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have >>>onestandard ? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Boy, the moderators are gonna kill us for ratchet jawing like this on >>>>their tech forum!;-) >>>>I've been the worster of all! (or is it worstest?) >>>>Phil >>>> >>>>Philip Bader >>>>Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976) >>>>3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880 >>>>Fax (863) 299-8821 >>>>email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>daryls_tv@xxxxxxx wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I think everyone has valid points. >>>>>I think things at the government level has gone arry (spelling). The >>>>> >>>>> >>>govern= >>> >>> >>>>>ment was set up to be "We the people". What has gone wrong? If the >>>>> >>>>> >>>majori= >>> >>> >>>>>ty of the people say they don't want to buy a new TV, they shouldn't >>>>> >>>>> >>be >> >> >>>for= >>> >>> >>>>>ced by anyone, especially the government, to buy a new TV because of >>>>> >>>>> >>new >> >> >>>te= >>> >>> >>>>>chnology. I think new technology is great but you should have a >>>>> >>>>> >>choice >> >> >>>>>if >>>>> >>>>> >>>= >>> >>> >>>>>you want to take advantage of it or just go along with what you like >>>>> >>>>> >>or >> >> >>>can= >>> >>> >>>>>afford. This should be a choice not a demand. It should never be >>>>>turned >>>>> >>>>> >>>= >>> >>> >>>>>into a hardship. >>>>>Daryl >>>>>Daryl's TV >>>>>2402 Wyoming Ave. >>>>>El Paso, TX 79903 >>>>>915-565-9184 Voice/Fax >>>>>daryls_tv@xxxxxxx >>>>>www.angelfire.com/tv2/daryls_tv >>>>> >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one >>>>> >>>>> >>>standar= >>> >>> >>>>>d ? >>>>>Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:48:09 -0600 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>I disagree. >>>>>>I think big brother is getting nastier with each passing day,...and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>when >> >> >>>= >>> >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>time comes that they are ready to cram this down our throuts,.....we >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>bett= >>> >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>er >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>be able, and willing to swallow it. Joe Blow (public) in this >>>>>> >>>>>> >>country is >> >> >>>= >>> >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>too >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>weakened by just the everyday struggle to meet thier financial >>>>>> >>>>>> >>needs, >> >> >>>>>>and >>>>>>obligations. They don't have time to fight this problem,...and will >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>accept >>> >>> >>>>>>it , just like a heard of sheep that is driven down the road. The >>>>>> >>>>>> >>dogs >> >> >>>wi= >>> >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>ll >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>keep um movin. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>LLW >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>LeRoy Westlund >>>>>>Westlund TV & Electronics >>>>>>97 North Main " I forgot,..to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>remember,.. >> >> >>>>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 to forget " >>>>>>Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 >>>>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>From: Al Gutz <alg@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:36 PM >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>haveone >>> >>> >>>>>>standard? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>The alloted bandwidth allows one 1080 signal or up to three 480 >>>>>>>signals. >>>>>>>Plans were to use 1080 for prime time high profile programs and the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>rest >>>>>>>of the time to use lower res and have something like an info, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>weather >> >> >>>>>>>or >>>>>>>shopping channel. >>>>>>>Don't count on NTSC dissapearing too soon. Joe average lower >>>>>>>middleclass >>>>>>>doesn't want to spend the rent money to buy a new TV set, he wants >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>to >> >> >>>>>>>come home sit back and relax with a cold one. If he thinks the rich >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>guys >>>>>>>are taking away his main entertainment, he is going to get ugly and >>>>>>>governments fear the masses getting ugly. If there are converter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>boxes >> >> >>>>>>>then they better be free. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Al G >>>>>>> >>>>>>>tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I suppose much like the PC monitor refresh rates. >>>>>>>>640x480,800x600,1024x768 and so on. They will be there but some >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>will >> >> >>>>>>>>favor one over others for various reasons.Some will be >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>popular,others >> >> >>>>>>>>obscure. When I become king of the planet, all this will change. >>>>>>>>Phil >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>From: Damon <DamonEB@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:16 pm >>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we >>>>>>>>have one standard? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Well, the scan rates will not change.....but >>>>>>>>>You'll probably always see 480i , 480p, 720p and 1080i signals, >>>>>>>>>Although I suspect most, if not all TV stations will move towards >>>>>>>>>1080i, >>>>>>>>>ABC is the only one I know that transmits 720P. >>>>>>>>>So no, you'll see 4 standards. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Damon Brunger >>>>>>>>>Telrad Electronics >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Al L wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:22 PM >>>>>>>>>>Subject: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>standard? >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:21 PM >>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>standard? >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>I hope that eventually we end up with a simplified sweep >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>system,and only >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>one hdtv standard. 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