[TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have onestandard ?

From: Wayne Vanaman <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:22:03 -0500
Personally, stretch objects are very irritating.  That is a distortion I 
defiantly don't like.  Grey or black borders are just fine by me, let me 
  see the picture the way it is Supposed to look.

Wayne Vanaman
Omega Electronics
6904 W Fairfield Dr
Pensacola, Fl.  32506-3310

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Jim Myers wrote:
> But what is the point in having a wide screen to watch a 4X3 picture? My 
> Hitachi is set to show everything in 16X9 and I like it that way, no 
> black borders for me!
> 
> 
> ********************************
> Since 1972                     *
> Jim Myers                      *
> Telrad Electronics             *
> Fort Wayne Indiana             *
> ********************************
> 
> 
> Phil Bader wrote:
> 
>>This is so true. When I got my first wide screen PTV a year ago the 
>>stretch looked distracting.Too wide in normal station viewing on cable. 
>>I didn't want the black borders...
>>Now I don't notice it and seems normal.
>>Phil
>>
>>Philip Bader
>>Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
>>3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880
>>Fax (863) 299-8821
>>email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
>>J Silverman wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Your brain has been conditioned to know what a tv picture looks like, so
>>>anything else represented as a tv picture looks "unnatural".
>>>Jerry Silverman
>>>Greentron Inc
>>>4 Newland Ave
>>>Greenville SC 29609
>>>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
>>>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Kevin's TV Repair" <kevintv@xxxxxxx>
>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:32 PM
>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
>>>onestandard ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>A live HDTV signal looks incredible compared to NTSC.  Night and day
>>>>difference.  The beauty of HDTV is you don't have to sit 30 feet away to
>>>>hide all the faults (of cable on a large screen) so the picture looks
>>>>"good".  You can basically sit as close as your eyes will allow.
>>>>
>>>>As others have stated the HDTV sets do not look very good with cable,
>>>>but the same goes for a 32" TV compared to a 42" and bigger projection
>>>>TV.  The 32" looks much better on cable.
>>>>
>>>>Kevin Wilks
>>>>Kevin's TV Repair
>>>>Penticton BC Canada
>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hugh @ Main TV
>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:35 AM
>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
>>>>onestandard ?
>>>>
>>>>Yes, HDTV is 10 times better than old NTSC.
>>>>www.Longmontmaintv.com
>>>>Main TV -  636 Main St.
>>>>Longmont, Co. 80501
>>>>Tel.303-776-6955 Fax 303-776-0792
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: "TechAssist" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:01 AM
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
>>>>onestandard
>>>>?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Don't worry about it.
>>>>>Can't kill all of us,...or the list wouldn't survive.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm taking a poll.
>>>>>Question being:
>>>>>Do you think the new HDTV picture looks better, then the old NTSC
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>standard
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>broadcast ? and : Is it worth changing over ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>So far it is 3 for the change over,...and 3 against.
>>>>>Kinda surpirising to me,....I thought I was the only one,...so it made
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>me
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"feel better".
>>>>>;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>LLW
>>>>>
>>>>>LeRoy Westlund
>>>>>Westlund TV & Electronics
>>>>>97 North Main                             " I forgot,..to remember,..
>>>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           to forget "
>>>>>Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
>>>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Phil Bader <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Date: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:12 AM
>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
>>>>>onestandard ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Boy, the moderators are gonna kill us for ratchet jawing  like this on
>>>>>>their tech forum!;-)
>>>>>>I've been the worster of all! (or is it worstest?)
>>>>>>Phil
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Philip Bader
>>>>>>Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
>>>>>>3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880
>>>>>>Fax (863) 299-8821
>>>>>>email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>daryls_tv@xxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think everyone has valid points.
>>>>>>>I think things at the government level has gone arry (spelling). The
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>govern=
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>ment was set up to be "We the people".  What has gone wrong?  If the
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>majori=
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>ty of the people say they don't want to buy a new TV, they shouldn't
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>be
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>for=
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>ced by anyone, especially the government, to buy a new TV because of
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>new
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>te=
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>chnology.  I think new technology is great but you should have a
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>choice
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>=
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>you want to take advantage of it or just go along with what you like
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>or
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>can=
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>afford.  This should be a choice not a demand.  It should never be
>>>>>>>turned
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>=
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>into a hardship.
>>>>>>>Daryl
>>>>>>>Daryl's TV
>>>>>>>2402 Wyoming Ave.
>>>>>>>El Paso, TX  79903
>>>>>>>915-565-9184 Voice/Fax
>>>>>>>daryls_tv@xxxxxxx
>>>>>>>www.angelfire.com/tv2/daryls_tv
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>standar=
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>d ?
>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:48:09 -0600
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>I disagree.
>>>>>>>>I think big brother is getting nastier with each passing day,...and
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>when
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>=
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>time comes that they are ready to cram this down our throuts,.....we
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>bett=
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>er
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>be able, and willing to swallow it. Joe Blow (public) in this
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>country is
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>=
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>too
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>weakened by just the everyday struggle to meet thier financial
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>needs,
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>obligations. They don't have time to fight this problem,...and will
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>accept
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>it , just like a heard of sheep that is driven down the road. The
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>dogs
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>wi=
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>ll
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>keep um movin.
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>LLW
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>LeRoy Westlund
>>>>>>>>Westlund TV & Electronics
>>>>>>>>97 North Main                             " I forgot,..to
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>remember,..
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           to forget "
>>>>>>>>Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
>>>>>>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>From: Al Gutz <alg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:36 PM
>>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>haveone
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>standard?
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The alloted bandwidth allows one 1080 signal or up to three 480
>>>>>>>>>signals.
>>>>>>>>>Plans were to use 1080 for prime time high profile programs and the
>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>rest
>>>>>>>>>of the time to use lower res and have something like an info,
>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>weather
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>shopping channel.
>>>>>>>>>Don't count on NTSC dissapearing too soon. Joe average lower
>>>>>>>>>middleclass
>>>>>>>>>doesn't want to spend the rent money to buy a new TV set, he wants
>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>to
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>come home sit back and relax with a cold one. If he thinks the rich
>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>guys
>>>>>>>>>are taking away his main entertainment, he is going to get ugly and
>>>>>>>>>governments fear the masses getting ugly. If there are converter
>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>boxes
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>then they better be free.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Al G
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I suppose much like the PC monitor refresh rates.
>>>>>>>>>>640x480,800x600,1024x768 and so on. They will be there but some
>>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>will
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>favor one over others for various reasons.Some will be
>>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>popular,others
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>obscure. When I become king of the planet, all this will change.
>>>>>>>>>>Phil
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>From: Damon <DamonEB@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:16 pm
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we
>>>>>>>>>>have one standard?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Well, the scan rates will not change.....but
>>>>>>>>>>>You'll probably always see 480i , 480p, 720p and 1080i signals,
>>>>>>>>>>>Although I suspect most, if not all TV stations will move towards
>>>>>>>>>>>1080i,
>>>>>>>>>>>ABC is the only one I know that transmits 720P.
>>>>>>>>>>>So no, you'll see 4 standards.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Damon Brunger
>>>>>>>>>>>Telrad Electronics
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Al L wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:22 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>>>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>standard?
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:21 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>standard?
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I hope that eventually we end up with a simplified sweep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>system,and only
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>one hdtv standard. How about it?Is there hope?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Al Leatherman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>224 RT. 46
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mine Hill, NJ 07803
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>973-361-5796
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>WWW.ALS-TV.NET
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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References:
- [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have onestandard ?
  - From: Kevin's TV Repair
- [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have onestandard ?
  - From: J Silverman
- [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have onestandard ?
  - From: Phil Bader
- [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have onestandard ?
  - From: Jim Myers
[TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have onestandard ?

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