The only TRUE HDTV I've seen, has been a couple of Demos by Mitsubishi and Panasonic at the Virginia Professional Electronics Convention. Both times they used a HD VCR. Both times the picture was better than ANY NTSC System. I was very impressed. I can't wait till all the dust settles. Then I WILL buy a HDTV. BTW HDTV VCR's have been for sell for 2 years ( I am told). No DVD's can reproduce HD. For that you need the new HD-DVD decks coming to stores very soon. Which a lot of manufacutures have accepted. These units will also play old DVD's. But wait ; Toshiba's Blue-Ray DVD's are also coming after HD-DVD. The Blue-Ray decks hold tons more media and now many manufactures are embracing that format also. It's like VHS verses BETA all over again. Blue-Ray is NOT backward compatable to our current DVD system. I think the current thinking is, "Keep changing it, to make the money" Christopher Barnak, CET Norfolk Public Schools Electronics Maintenance 966 Bellmore Ave. Norfolk, Va. 23504 Phone 757 628 3385 Fax 757 628 3392 cbarnak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> daryls_tv@xxxxxxx 6/23/2005 9:12:04 AM >>> I have to agree with LeRoy. Give me a good NTSC set and I will put it up a= gainst any of the HD sets. The picture is crappy to say the least. Perhap= s I haven't seen the so called good HD sets. I have a customer that spent = $8,000 for his entertainment center. What a disappointment on my part. My= NTSC set looked better and I didn't spend anything near that and I never w= ill. Daryl Daryl's TV 2402 Wyoming Ave. El Paso, TX 79903 915-565-9184 Voice/Fax daryls_tv@xxxxxxx www.angelfire.com/tv2/daryls_tv ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin's TV Repair" <kevintv@xxxxxxx> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one sta= ndard ? Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:58:52 -0700 >=20 > How can a picture that has 2-4 times the resolution look "phoney"? If > anything it looks more life-like. I have always wanted a larger > picture, and High Def is the way to go to get the best picture. >=20 > Kevin Wilks > Kevin's TV Repair > Penticton BC Canada > kevintv@xxxxxxx >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of LeRoy Westlund > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:39 PM > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one > standard ? >=20 > No,...I didn't say that,...but,...since you brought it up,....I see no > need > to change the system. The picture on the NTSC sets is plenty good enough > for > the average Joe Blow.(including me). The picture on a HDTV looks kinda > phoney to me. The old system looks more "life like". > Sometimes,...progress > is not always for the better. The whole direction this country is headed > in, > is fast getting out of hand. We are headed for disaster. >=20 > IMO, > LLW >=20 > LeRoy Westlund > Westlund TV & Electronics > 97 North Main " I forgot,..to remember,.. > Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 to forget " > Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 > mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Miller d.b.a. Country TV <rlmbkm@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:17 PM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one > standard ? >=20 >=20 > > Are you saying you would rather see TV broadcast stay analog NTSC > standard?? > > Country TV > > Ron Miller > > Inez, TX. 77968 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:48 PM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one > standard > > ? > > > > > >> I disagree. > >> I think big brother is getting nastier with each passing day,...and > when > >> the > >> time comes that they are ready to cram this down our throuts,.....we > >> better > >> be able, and willing to swallow it. Joe Blow (public) in this country > is > >> too > >> weakened by just the everyday struggle to meet thier financial needs, > and > >> obligations. They don't have time to fight this problem,...and will > accept > >> it , just like a heard of sheep that is driven down the road. The > dogs > >> will > >> keep um movin. > >> > >> LLW > >> > >> LeRoy Westlund > >> Westlund TV & Electronics > >> 97 North Main " I forgot,..to remember,.. > >> Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 to forget " > >> Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 > >> mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Al Gutz <alg@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:36 PM > >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we > haveone > >> standard? > >> > >> > >>> The alloted bandwidth allows one 1080 signal or up to three 480 > signals. > >>> Plans were to use 1080 for prime time high profile programs and the > rest > >>> of the time to use lower res and have something like an info, weather > or > >>> shopping channel. > >>> Don't count on NTSC dissapearing too soon. Joe average lower > middleclass > >>> doesn't want to spend the rent money to buy a new TV set, he wants to > >>> come home sit back and relax with a cold one. If he thinks the rich > guys > >>> are taking away his main entertainment, he is going to get ugly and > >>> governments fear the masses getting ugly. If there are converter > boxes > >>> then they better be free. > >>> > >>> Al G > >>> > >>> tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > >>>> I suppose much like the PC monitor refresh rates. > >>>> 640x480,800x600,1024x768 and so on. They will be there but some > will > >>>> favor one over others for various reasons.Some will be > popular,others > >>>> obscure. When I become king of the planet, all this will change. > >>>> Phil > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: Damon <DamonEB@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>> Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:16 pm > >>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we > >>>> have one standard? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Well, the scan rates will not change.....but > >>>>> You'll probably always see 480i , 480p, 720p and 1080i signals, > >>>>> Although I suspect most, if not all TV stations will move towards > >>>>> 1080i, > >>>>> ABC is the only one I know that transmits 720P. > >>>>> So no, you'll see 4 standards. > >>>>> > >>>>> Damon Brunger > >>>>> Telrad Electronics > >>>>> > >>>>> Al L wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:22 PM > >>>>>> Subject: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one > standard? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:21 PM > >>>>>>> Subject: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one standard? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I hope that eventually we end up with a simplified sweep > >>>>> > >>>>> system,and only > >>>>> > >>>>>>>> one hdtv standard. 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