[TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have onestandard ?

  • From: Phil Bader <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:57:56 -0400

This is so true. When I got my first wide screen PTV a year ago the 
stretch looked distracting.Too wide in normal station viewing on cable. 
I didn't want the black borders...
Now I don't notice it and seems normal.
Phil

Philip Bader
Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880
Fax (863) 299-8821
email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



J Silverman wrote:

>Your brain has been conditioned to know what a tv picture looks like, so
>anything else represented as a tv picture looks "unnatural".
>Jerry Silverman
>Greentron Inc
>4 Newland Ave
>Greenville SC 29609
>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kevin's TV Repair" <kevintv@xxxxxxx>
>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:32 PM
>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
>onestandard ?
>
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>>A live HDTV signal looks incredible compared to NTSC.  Night and day
>>difference.  The beauty of HDTV is you don't have to sit 30 feet away to
>>hide all the faults (of cable on a large screen) so the picture looks
>>"good".  You can basically sit as close as your eyes will allow.
>>
>>As others have stated the HDTV sets do not look very good with cable,
>>but the same goes for a 32" TV compared to a 42" and bigger projection
>>TV.  The 32" looks much better on cable.
>>
>>Kevin Wilks
>>Kevin's TV Repair
>>Penticton BC Canada
>>kevintv@xxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hugh @ Main TV
>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:35 AM
>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
>>onestandard ?
>>
>>Yes, HDTV is 10 times better than old NTSC.
>>www.Longmontmaintv.com
>>Main TV -  636 Main St.
>>Longmont, Co. 80501
>>Tel.303-776-6955 Fax 303-776-0792
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: "TechAssist" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:01 AM
>>Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
>>onestandard
>>?
>>
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>>>Don't worry about it.
>>>Can't kill all of us,...or the list wouldn't survive.
>>>
>>>I'm taking a poll.
>>>Question being:
>>>Do you think the new HDTV picture looks better, then the old NTSC
>>>      
>>>
>>standard
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>>>broadcast ? and : Is it worth changing over ?
>>>
>>>
>>>So far it is 3 for the change over,...and 3 against.
>>>Kinda surpirising to me,....I thought I was the only one,...so it made
>>>      
>>>
>>me
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>>>"feel better".
>>>;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>LLW
>>>
>>>LeRoy Westlund
>>>Westlund TV & Electronics
>>>97 North Main                             " I forgot,..to remember,..
>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           to forget "
>>>Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Phil Bader <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Date: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:12 AM
>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
>>>onestandard ?
>>>
>>>
>>>      
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>>>>Boy, the moderators are gonna kill us for ratchet jawing  like this on
>>>>their tech forum!;-)
>>>>I've been the worster of all! (or is it worstest?)
>>>>Phil
>>>>
>>>>Philip Bader
>>>>Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
>>>>3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880
>>>>Fax (863) 299-8821
>>>>email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>daryls_tv@xxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>>I think everyone has valid points.
>>>>>I think things at the government level has gone arry (spelling). The
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>govern=
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>>>>>ment was set up to be "We the people".  What has gone wrong?  If the
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>majori=
>>>      
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>>>>>ty of the people say they don't want to buy a new TV, they shouldn't
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>be
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>>>for=
>>>      
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>>>>>ced by anyone, especially the government, to buy a new TV because of
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>new
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>>>te=
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>>>>>chnology.  I think new technology is great but you should have a
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>choice
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>>>>>if
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>=
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>>>>>you want to take advantage of it or just go along with what you like
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>or
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>>>can=
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>>>>>afford.  This should be a choice not a demand.  It should never be
>>>>>turned
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>=
>>>      
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>>>>>into a hardship.
>>>>>Daryl
>>>>>Daryl's TV
>>>>>2402 Wyoming Ave.
>>>>>El Paso, TX  79903
>>>>>915-565-9184 Voice/Fax
>>>>>daryls_tv@xxxxxxx
>>>>>www.angelfire.com/tv2/daryls_tv
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>standar=
>>>      
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>>>>>d ?
>>>>>Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:48:09 -0600
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>I disagree.
>>>>>>I think big brother is getting nastier with each passing day,...and
>>>>>>            
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>>when
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>>>=
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>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>time comes that they are ready to cram this down our throuts,.....we
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>bett=
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>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>er
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>be able, and willing to swallow it. Joe Blow (public) in this
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>country is
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>>>=
>>>      
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>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>too
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>weakened by just the everyday struggle to meet thier financial
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>needs,
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>>>>>>and
>>>>>>obligations. They don't have time to fight this problem,...and will
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>accept
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>>>>>>it , just like a heard of sheep that is driven down the road. The
>>>>>>            
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>>dogs
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>>>wi=
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>>>>>>            
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>>>>>ll
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
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>>>>>>keep um movin.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>LLW
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>LeRoy Westlund
>>>>>>Westlund TV & Electronics
>>>>>>97 North Main                             " I forgot,..to
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>remember,..
>>    
>>
>>>>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           to forget "
>>>>>>Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
>>>>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: Al Gutz <alg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:36 PM
>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>haveone
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>standard?
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The alloted bandwidth allows one 1080 signal or up to three 480
>>>>>>>signals.
>>>>>>>Plans were to use 1080 for prime time high profile programs and the
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>rest
>>>>>>>of the time to use lower res and have something like an info,
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>weather
>>    
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>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>shopping channel.
>>>>>>>Don't count on NTSC dissapearing too soon. Joe average lower
>>>>>>>middleclass
>>>>>>>doesn't want to spend the rent money to buy a new TV set, he wants
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>to
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>>>>>>>come home sit back and relax with a cold one. If he thinks the rich
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>guys
>>>>>>>are taking away his main entertainment, he is going to get ugly and
>>>>>>>governments fear the masses getting ugly. If there are converter
>>>>>>>              
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>>boxes
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>>>>>>>then they better be free.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Al G
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>I suppose much like the PC monitor refresh rates.
>>>>>>>>640x480,800x600,1024x768 and so on. They will be there but some
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>will
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>>>>>>>>favor one over others for various reasons.Some will be
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>popular,others
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>>>>>>>>obscure. When I become king of the planet, all this will change.
>>>>>>>>Phil
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>From: Damon <DamonEB@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:16 pm
>>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we
>>>>>>>>have one standard?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Well, the scan rates will not change.....but
>>>>>>>>>You'll probably always see 480i , 480p, 720p and 1080i signals,
>>>>>>>>>Although I suspect most, if not all TV stations will move towards
>>>>>>>>>1080i,
>>>>>>>>>ABC is the only one I know that transmits 720P.
>>>>>>>>>So no, you'll see 4 standards.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Damon Brunger
>>>>>>>>>Telrad Electronics
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Al L wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:22 PM
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>>>>>>>>>>                    
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>>standard?
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>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:21 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>>>>>>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>standard?
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                      
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>>>>>>>>>>>>I hope that eventually we end up with a simplified sweep
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>system,and only
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>one hdtv standard. How about it?Is there hope?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Al Leatherman
>>>>>>>>>>>>224 RT. 46
>>>>>>>>>>>>Mine Hill, NJ 07803
>>>>>>>>>>>>973-361-5796
>>>>>>>>>>>>WWW.ALS-TV.NET
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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