[TCUG] Re: old controller replacements

  • From: Bull Peter <Peter.Bull@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:53:13 +0100

I agree with Howard, if you have the luxury of funding to support a replacement 
programme it needs to be based on a combination of age and reliability. I think 
15 years is too soon for a reliable controller in good condition, but 25+ years 
is pushing it even if the controller is reliable. Components age at different 
rates and even the highest spec ones will expire eventually. At least 70s and 
25s don't have EPROMs, which definitely have a limited life, albeit you can 
probably reburn them if you can find an appropriate burner. If you are 
reluctant to lose your old cases we have had some success grit blasting and 
recoating old 25 cases to use as miscellaneous equipment cabinets.

Peter Bull

-----Original Message-----
From: Saffer Howard [mailto:Howard.Saffer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 01 October 2004 10:09
To: 'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [TCUG] Re: old controller replacements



Wouldn't controller replacement criteria based on age and current 'reliability' 
be a better indicator for replacement policies?. We all know that some types of 
older controller are very reliable - and unless there is some other requirement 
for replacing the controller (e.g. changing the site geometry or upgrading 
facilities on site - or spares availability) - why replace reliable equipment?

(This is assuming there is funding for a controller replacement programme 
anyway! - especially as in many cases, if it is time to replace the controller, 
it is often also time to replace the rest of the street equipment too!)

Howard Saffer

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Jones [mailto:peter.jones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 30 September 2004 12:59
To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [TCUG] Re: old controller replacements



I'm with you Graeme. 

Nothing worse than having to replace a good old T200 that's worked
reliably for 15 years or more with something that may not begin with a
letter 'S'!

Peter




Peter Jones
Project Leader - Traffic Control Systems
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Sefton MBC - UTC
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