We seem to be moving increasingly towards installing 'close associated' secondary signals for traffic on all junctions - not simply where split traffic phasing dictates this to avoid confusing right turners or peds!. There does not seem to be a need for this on simple junction approaches (i.e. where there is no split phasing for opposing flows and where turning in gaps is allowed) since arguably in such cases everyone benefits from having sight of a secondary head on the far side of the junction. Does anyone still routinely install secondaries in the 'classic' position for such simple sites (i.e. heads sited on the far side of the junction within an arc of 30 degrees to the right of driver at the stop line)? If not, can anyone point to accident studies which suggest that we should always be using 'close associated' signals? Mervyn Leeds 2476750 ________________________________________________________________________ The information in this email (and any attachment) may be for the intended recipient only. If you know you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disclose the information in any way and please delete this email (and any attachment) from your system. Service of legal documents is not accepted by email ________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------- A message from the TCUG mailing list. For information about the list visit //www.freelists.org/webpage/tcug