Let's see if I understand this correctly, I think I do. I'll use the analogy of a pub land lord. A guy buys a premises and converts it to a pub. He then gets a licence to sell alcohol. 2 years later he sells the pub but the new owner must get a licence in his own right, the previous landlord can't sell the pub along with his licence as the licence is issued to him and not to the premises. is that how the talks licence works, it is issued to the individual and not to the phone? Walter -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Clive Pallett Sent: 19 June 2010 22:10 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Selling phones with Talks installed Hello Scott, The Talks license is tied to your phone's IMEI number, or in the case of a SIM license, your SIM card. You don't own Talks, it's licensed to you, so passing on a phone with your code is an infringement of the license. Best wishes, Clive Pallett