[talks-uk] Re: Selling phones with Talks installed
- From: Georgina Joyce <r2gl@xxxxxxxx>
- To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:55:05 +0100
Hi
Interesting how noone has also posed the idea that maybe it's a good
promotional tool. Think about it, someone buys a second-hand phone with
talks installed. After the seller has transfered there licence over to
there new replacement phone. The buyer of the second-hand phone, cannot
upgrade or transfer it across to another phone. So when a hard reset is
made or the phone dies, that's the end of that restricted to upgrade
copy of talks.
When a user has this level of access. I'm sure that when they can
afford their own licence on a new phone, that's what they'll do. Noone
can guess how long a second-hand phone will last. These products are
not built to last but to die after a few years.
On Sat, 2010-06-19 at 19:32 +0100, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
> Or Saqib, Nuance could start to charge genuine and honest customers triple
> or quadruple what they do now, to allow for all the dishonest people out
> there... the choice is clearly in the users hands.
>
> There's a User License agreement for a reason. Just like Microsoft, Apple
> and millions of other software vendors out there, Nuance only want the
> original person who paid for the product to benefit from it.
>
> Being frank, so do I, If I buy something and spend my hard earned cash on
> it, I do not want someone else to benefit from that and get the same for
> less. Rules and regulations and licenses are in place to protect everyone,
> not just the licensee etc.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Saqib
> Sent: 19 June 2010 15:31
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Selling phones with Talks installed
>
> Nuance lose out for every phone that gets sold with Talks on.
> Apparently we must remove the license and software so the buyer must
> purchase a new license. Through this method Nuance will gain a extra
> £100 for each new Talks user and not to mention the possible income
> gained from further upgrades by the new user.
> Original message:
> > Sorry?
>
> > Why would you not just leave it on?
>
> > Use the up grade and sell it working.
>
> > Why would anyone not just do that?
>
> > Am I missing something here?
>
> > Ta Scott.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Saqib - Email Address: Saqib@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent On: 19/06/2010 11:26
> > Sent To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Selling phones with Talks installed
>
> > Hi I have tried deleting the license code and it does clear. However when
> I
> > go back in to manual registration the license number re-appears and Talks
> > works as it should in full working mode.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Clive Pallett" <clive.pallett@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "Talks-UK" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 1:21 AM
> > Subject: [talks-uk] Selling phones with Talks installed
> >> Hello everyone,
>
> >> I know this was discussed a little while ago, so apologies for going over
> >> old ground.
>
> >> when you are selling a phone with Talks installed, can you just erase
> your
> >> license code? I assume by doing this it will go into ten-minute mode, so
> >> would it be possible to put it into either ten- or thirty-day demo mode
> so
> >> the prospective purchaser can apply for a cross-phone license? This way
> >> they will have a phone with Talks installed to get them started with the
> >> phone. Thanks in advance for clarification.
>
> >> Best wishes,
>
> >> Clive Pallett
>
>
> >
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