Well I have also got a copy of Mobile Speak 4. If I wanted to move the copy to a new phone then I simply have to install MS on the new phone and insert my simcard and the software will be fully activated as the licensing for MS4 is based on your phone number. I don't know why Nuance don't take this approach as they would prevent phones being sold with Talks on them. Nuance only offer the sim serial number license which is not the same as phone number licensing and you have to pay out around £75 if you lose your simcard If they took the phone number licensing approach then losing your simcard wouldn't be a big deal and selling phones wouldn't be a problem as you could just sell to a secondhand shop or privately. I think there are two reasons why people sell Talks phones on selling lists. One is that they wan't to get as much as they can for the phone in order to pay some of that money towards a cross upgrade and the other reason being that they would want to sell to someone who needs a Talks enabled phone at a low cost. I know plenty of people who just couldn't afford a new phone along with a new license of Talks. There for it's only benefecial for them to wait for a secondhand phone on a selling list as I've seen some being sold as little as £70. I actually bought a Talks phone for £40 before Christmas for a friend who simply couldn't afford a new phone along with a new license of Talks. In this regard my friend benefitted from someone selling a phone with Talks on all be it the phone was 3 years out of date. It's now enabled him to keep in contact with me and his other friends and he now sends and receives texts from his circle of friends. The seller of the phone only went on to purchase a new cross phone upgrade from Talknav so everyone wins in that respect.
Original message:
Would you take vista off a laptop if you were selling it?
If they wanted to stop this they'd have the license movable so deactivate on one and reactivate on another.
It's why they charge for moving it, because they know it'll be sold with talks working.
But anyway as to the point in the first place.
Uninstall it from the phone and just put back a demo but even then you or some one else could reactivate by text couldn't they?
The MI number would be the same so couldn't it be reregister it anyway?
Ta Scott.
-----Original Message----- From: Karen Burgess - Email Address: karen7475@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent On: 19/06/2010 16:57 Sent To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Selling phones with Talks installed
hi there
exactly, that is why most of us sell our phones with talks already on because we can use the money to pay for the next talks upgrade, I've done this several times. never thought of it as being illegal mind you lol.
kaz
-------------------------------------------------- From: "Saqib" <saqib@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 4:43 PM To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Selling phones with Talks installed
Hi Karren If you look at it from the sellers point of view! They are getting a better return by selling the phone with Talks on it as the extra money will pay for their next cross phone upgrade. We've been down this road on the other Talks list and we were told to advertise the phone Talks compatable and not to be persific about whether Talks is installed on it or not. It would then be the buyers descression on whether to purchase the phone or not. Original message:well every phone I've sold I've sent with the version of talks on it. it doesn't mean I lose the licence though as I always use it to upgrade but I've never deleted the talks before sending it. after all, the buyer can't use my licence so why not let them have the talks on the phone its no good to me.
kaz
-------------------------------------------------- From: "Saqib" <saqib@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 3:31 PM To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Selling phones with Talks installed
Nuance lose out for every phone that gets sold with Talks on. Apparently we must remove the license and software so the buyer must purchase a new license. Through this method Nuance will gain a extra £100 for each new Talks user and not to mention the possible income gained from further upgrades by the new user. Original message:Sorry?
Why would you not just leave it on?
Use the up grade and sell it working.
Why would anyone not just do that?
Am I missing something here?
Ta Scott.
-----Original Message----- From: Saqib - Email Address: Saqib@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent On: 19/06/2010 11:26 Sent To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Selling phones with Talks installed
Hi I have tried deleting the license code and it does clear. However when I go back in to manual registration the license number re-appears and Talks works as it should in full working mode. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clive Pallett" <clive.pallett@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Talks-UK" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 1:21 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Selling phones with Talks installedHello everyone,
I know this was discussed a little while ago, so apologies for going over old ground.
when you are selling a phone with Talks installed, can you just erase your license code? I assume by doing this it will go into ten-minute mode, so would it be possible to put it into either ten- or thirty-day demo mode so the prospective purchaser can apply for a cross-phone license? This way they will have a phone with Talks installed to get them started with the phone. Thanks in advance for clarification.
Best wishes,
Clive Pallett
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