[talks-uk] Re: Selling phones with Talks installed
- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <forums@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:49:03 +0100
Darren,
If you were on the Talks International list I'd have you for remarks like that,
a company charging whatever it wishes to for a product is entitled to do so.
You are not forced to buy their products are you...?
If you set out to sell your TV next week, and I do not like how much you are
selling it for, buy your attitude I'm entitled to just steel it from you. What
a crazy point of view and how very unenlightened.
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-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 19 June 2010 19:10
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Selling phones with Talks installed
Well if a company is going to rip off it's customers then stuff like this is
going to happen isn't it.
-original message-
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Selling phones with Talks installed
From: Saqib <saqib@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 19:06:2010 6.59 pm
Well I have also got a copy of Mobile Speak 4. If I wanted to move the
copy to a new phone then I simply have to install MS on the new phone
and insert my simcard and the software will be fully activated as the
licensing for MS4 is based on your phone number. I don't know why
Nuance don't take this approach as they would prevent phones being sold
with Talks on them. Nuance only offer the sim serial number license
which is not the same as phone number licensing and you have to pay out
around £75 if you lose your simcard If they took the phone number
licensing approach then losing your simcard wouldn't be a big deal and
selling phones wouldn't be a problem as you could just sell to a
secondhand shop or privately. I think there are two reasons why people
sell Talks phones on selling lists. One is that they wan't to get as
much as they can for the phone in order to pay some of that money
towards a cross upgrade and the other reason being that they would want
to sell to someone who needs a Talks enabled phone at a low cost. I
know plenty of people who just couldn't afford a new phone along with a
new license of Talks. There for it's only benefecial for them to wait
for a secondhand phone on a selling list as I've seen some being sold
as little as £70. I actually bought a Talks phone for £40 before
Christmas for a friend who simply couldn't afford a new phone along
with a new license of Talks. In this regard my friend benefitted from
someone selling a phone with Talks on all be it the phone was 3 years
out of date. It's now enabled him to keep in contact with me and his
other friends and he now sends and receives texts from his circle of
friends. The seller of the phone only went on to purchase a new cross
phone upgrade from Talknav so everyone wins in that respect.
Original message:
> Would you take vista off a laptop if you were selling it?
> If they wanted to stop this they'd have the license movable so
> deactivate on one and reactivate on another.
> It's why they charge for moving it, because they know it'll be sold
> with talks working.
> But anyway as to the point in the first place.
> Uninstall it from the phone and just put back a demo but even then you
> or some one else could reactivate by text couldn't they?
> The MI number would be the same so couldn't it be reregister it anyway?
> Ta Scott.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karen Burgess - Email Address: karen7475@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent On: 19/06/2010 16:57
> Sent To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Selling phones with Talks installed
> hi there
> exactly, that is why most of us sell our phones with talks already on
> because we can use the money to pay for the next talks upgrade, I've done
> this several times. never thought of it as being illegal mind you lol.
> kaz
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Saqib" <saqib@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 4:43 PM
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Selling phones with Talks installed
>> Hi Karren If you look at it from the sellers point of view! They are
>> getting a better return by selling the phone with Talks on it as the
>> extra money will pay for their next cross phone upgrade. We've been
>> down this road on the other Talks list and we were told to advertise
>> the phone Talks compatable and not to be persific about whether Talks
>> is installed on it or not. It would then be the buyers descression on
>> whether to purchase the phone or not.
>> Original message:
>>> well every phone I've sold I've sent with the version of talks on it. it
>>> doesn't mean I lose the licence though as I always use it to upgrade but
>>> I've never deleted the talks before sending it. after all, the buyer
>>> can't
>>> use my licence so why not let them have the talks on the phone its no
>>> good
>>> to me.
>>> kaz
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Saqib" <saqib@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 3:31 PM
>>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Selling phones with Talks installed
>>>> Nuance lose out for every phone that gets sold with Talks on.
>>>> Apparently we must remove the license and software so the buyer must
>>>> purchase a new license. Through this method Nuance will gain a extra
>>>> £100 for each new Talks user and not to mention the possible income
>>>> gained from further upgrades by the new user.
>>>> Original message:
>>>>> Sorry?
>>>>> Why would you not just leave it on?
>>>>> Use the up grade and sell it working.
>>>>> Why would anyone not just do that?
>>>>> Am I missing something here?
>>>>> Ta Scott.
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Saqib - Email Address: Saqib@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sent On: 19/06/2010 11:26
>>>>> Sent To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Selling phones with Talks installed
>>>>> Hi I have tried deleting the license code and it does clear. However
>>>>> when
>>>>> I
>>>>> go back in to manual registration the license number re-appears and
>>>>> Talks
>>>>> works as it should in full working mode.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Clive Pallett" <clive.pallett@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: "Talks-UK" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 1:21 AM
>>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Selling phones with Talks installed
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>> I know this was discussed a little while ago, so apologies for going
>>>>>> over
>>>>>> old ground.
>>>>>> when you are selling a phone with Talks installed, can you just erase
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> license code? I assume by doing this it will go into ten-minute mode,
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> would it be possible to put it into either ten- or thirty-day demo
>>>>>> mode
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> the prospective purchaser can apply for a cross-phone license? This
>>>>>> way
>>>>>> they will have a phone with Talks installed to get them started with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> phone. Thanks in advance for clarification.
>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>> Clive Pallett
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