Mike and all: I think the setup and hold time is not a problem in shortest data bus. Assume that the length of data bus is ZERO, because no any data bus delay, so the timing will be just the timing in SDRAM or SDRAM controller datasheet!!! It's perfect! So I think the shorter, the better. Can anybody explain it? Do we really need to maintain the almost same length in SDRAM data bus? Thanks in advanced. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Brown" <bmgman@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <peter.zhu@xxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 12:49 PM Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: SDRAM timing > Peter, > You are half right. Long path (setup) timing is determined by the longest data bus. You fail to consider the short path (hold) timing, and you will get a really nasty surprise some time after the design is released to the customer by doing so. > > Mike > > peter zhu wrote: > > > Hi, all: > > > > I oftem see designer reel the PCB trace for equivalent length in SDRAM data > > bus. I am very puzzled about it all the time I think, for SDRAM data bus, > > there is on need for equivalent trace length in SDRAM data bus. The timing > > is determined by the longest data bus. For other SDRAM data bus, the short, > > the better, and no need for equivalent. Do you think so? > > > > Also where can I find some detailed guide for SDRAM and DDR tracing? > > > > Thanks in advanced > > > > Peter > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from si-list: > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > > > For help: > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > > List FAQ wiki page is located at: > > http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ > > > > List technical documents are available at: > > http://www.si-list.org > > > > List archives are viewable at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > or at our remote archives: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List FAQ wiki page is located at: > http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.org > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu