The dog I showed was from the AKC website on the illustrated standard In a message dated 12/17/2005 5:03:55 PM Central Standard Time, campaigners@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: HM.... The drawing you showed has a dog with a bad back, short, steep croup, and a short lower thigh. The pigment is lacking, the upper arm is short, as is the neck. Take a look at the notable dogs on the PC website. I have never finished a dog that did not drive of the rear and/ or was dirty going away. I will send you my website in another mail so you can see them. Joan - Jackie Marcato Shepherds Where it's about function, not flash ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================