[ SHOWGSD-L ] Topic change - was Apology to The List
- From: falkrigia@xxxxxxx
- To: ninemaplefarm@xxxxxx, terraf@xxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 10:59:49 -0500 (EST)
Sara,
I show in the all-breed and specialty rings, have german, czeck and
american dogs and Champion american and german/american crosses and
performance dogs and have shown CONSTANTLY all over for 30 years (
Holy cow :-) dating myself ).
I've also occasionally heard the comments you say you are hearing 'all
the time' and they were almost invariably from people who know nothing
about the true functional movement of the german shepherd dog.
My advice to you would be to find a person in your area who shows GSDs
both in breed and in performance SUCCESSFULLY and ask them to mentor
you and listen with an open mind and heart and learn from them. THEN
educate those who say the things you say you hear because believe me,
once you are around some GSDs who 'have it all' you'll realize how
short-sighted most of these comments really are.
i am currently mentoring a german dog owner with very much the same
questions you have who fell in love with my young german/american show
dogs and is going to be breeding her awesome german bitch to my
specialty Grand Champion because she understands the structure needed
for the movement she now loves.
yes, there is overangulation and temperament problems and most everyone
who has been 'in the breed' IN ANY BREED has experienced most all of
the possible problems at one time or another but these are actually the
exceptions - not the rule - as you say, in my 30 years of experience.
And no one deliberately breeds for these things who wants to be
successful but young pups and young dogs can exhibit 'problems' that
they 'grow into' as mature dogs which make them the incredible animals
they are. Many a superb adult was a gangly, awkward, strongly angulated
youngster.. i'd bet 'The Rock' didn't look or act at 14 like he does
today ;-) Age is a consideration also when condemning angulation and
sometimes temperament.
yes, there are 'bad' ones but that is a fact of nature in any species.
yes, deliberate breeding can increase that. But it can also improve the
breed.
We just all have to be careful and know what is functionally correct
for our breed.
lynda
Gene Workman
Lynda Bragg-Workman
www.falkrigiashepherds.com
www.thecraftywoodchuck.com
Appaloosa Acres - an Equine and Canine facility
Old Fella Burke County Animal Rescue - training director
"I expect to pass through this world but once. Any good thing,
therefore, that I can do or any kindness that I can show to any fellow
creature, let me do it now. Let me not defer nor neglect it, for I
shall not pass this way again". du Mabillier (1773-1855)
-----Original Message-----
From: Sara Minsk <ninemaplefarm@xxxxxx>
To: terraf <terraf@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: GStiefferm <GStiefferm@xxxxxxx>; stormy435 <stormy435@xxxxxxxxx>;
showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 7:53 am
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: ADMIN: Apology to The List
I may add...
Every show I go to, EVERY single exhibitor I talk to is disgusted by
the GSD.
EVERY single one of them regardless of what breed they have. It's hard
for me to
listen too but I have a hard time defending the showring dog. It's not
normal
for dogs to walk like that. I don't remember the GSD I loved as a kid
walking
like that. It's disgusting. Why do their legs hit the ground? They look
so
wobbly and weird.
I hear at our obedience class or at a nosework demonstration or while
out for a
walk.
Why is it that EVERY dog person on the planet (except the specialty GSD
breeder)
is so sad that the breed has been ruined? Why can't fellow GSD
breeders see it?
In fact, at my last UKC show (I started there to get us ready for AKC)
the judge
even commented to me on having a "normal" GSD and it was "nice to see".
:-(
It really breaks my heart.
Plus, I see GSDs at shows shaking, tail tucked, looking around
frantically. It's
just not proper character.
Now, I don't mean to come on here and have my first posts be so
negative. I am
trying to learn. So, please help me understand .....
Does anyone know when the hind end thing started? I know it wasn't
always like
this? Does it give a bigger gait or something? Does anyone wish they
could go
back to breeding normal dogs but maybe they think they won't win in
ring
anymore?
Does anyone else feel our show ring atmosphere is intimidating to a new
show
ring exhibitor? Don't some of you wish people could show their own
dogs without
the antics?
I apologize again.
Sara Minsk
On Dec 6, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Terra Fairburn wrote:
> Great Post Gail. And we wonder why people are leaving the breed and
not
> exhibiting in the GSD ring!
> Terra Fairburn
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> From: <GStiefferm@xxxxxxx>
> To: <stormy435@xxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:37 AM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: ADMIN: Apology to The List
>
>
>> I would certainly hope so. And I believe those listed are not on
this
>> list and need an APOLOGY sent to them. Sad to think who was listed
to
>> receive
>> that e-mail.. ANOTHER sad day on this list.
>>
>>
>> Gail
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