[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [ SHOWGSD-L (no subject)

  • From: Sara Minsk <ninemaplefarm@xxxxxx>
  • To: Diane <texasgsds@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 10:59:38 -0500

Sounds good to me but since the GSD is a herding dog I think those dogs should 
be profiled a little bit more.

Maybe have a Herding Class for the Working Herding dog with advanced Herding 
titles and a Sport class for the working Sport dog (ScH or advanced AKC 
titles)??

It would actually be cool to see if we could generate interest. I am trying to 
do both AKC and ScH with my dog and it is a battle!!  It seems that the ScH 
people and the AKC Showring people are on opposite continents (except Helen 
Gleason)!  I couldn't even find a club to train with as the USA clubs (largest 
ScH organization in America) is so horrified at what the GSDCA members have 
done to the GSD that they will not let anyone be a member of USA if they are 
GSDCA members.  So, practically every club in my area is USA which leaves me 
out to dry.

So, I have to find either a DVG club and come in through the back door or a WDA 
club. The WDA clubs in my region have either left WDA or are in 
turmoil/controversy.  But, I still have one lifeline left with a local DVG 
club. They said they weren't accepting new members but I might be able to get 
my foot in the door.

Anyway, sorry to digress again.

Thus, my point was supposed to be that having that class might bring us all 
together again??

We may just have to have one working dog class and mix everyone like you 
suggested as not sure enough dogs would come. Probably only dogs showing in 
performance at Nationals which would leave out the HGH dogs and the ScH dogs. 
Hmmm.

Sara

Sara
On Dec 7, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Diane wrote:

> The original suggestion was to have the class open for all dogs with advanced 
> AKC and Schutzhund titles.
> 
> Diane
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 7, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Sara Minsk <ninemaplefarm@xxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> Maybe we could have a Herding Dog class for dogs with advanced herding 
>> titles (like at least a HI and up to HX and HGH)?
>> 
>> I actually wrote a letter to the Review pitching a similar class but it was 
>> for amateur owners and no double handling allowed and the dog to be shown in 
>> a more natural stack.
>> 
>> 
>> Sara
>> On Dec 7, 2011, at 10:38 AM, barbara17236@xxxxxxx wrote:
>> 
>>> The Labradors actually have a Hunting Dog class at their specialty shows.   
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Barb Hively - PA
>>> DNA.  It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diane <texasgsds@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 10:23 am
>>> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L (no subject)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Barb, the example you gave about the difference in types between UKC and 
>>> AKC has 
>>> ore to do with a divergence in type between working dogs and conformation 
>>> dogs. 
>>> n a lot of the sporting breeds, the field dogs almost look like a different 
>>> reed from their conformation counterparts. That's why it was suggested that 
>>> we 
>>> ave a working dog class at our National, to emphasize that correct 
>>> conformation 
>>> akes it a lot easier for the working dog to perform its task. The person 
>>> making 
>>> hat suggestion got their head handed to them. @Sara - breeders have made 
>>> tructural changes in the GSD. If you look at dogs from the 1960's and 
>>> today's 
>>> ogs you can see that. As far as I can tell, there has been no corresponding 
>>> hange to the standard, so I don't know how breeders justified the 
>>> structural 
>>> hanges. I guess the same standard that applied to the earlier dogs applies 
>>> now 
>>> o today's dogs. But I know the earlier dogs would not win in today's 
>>> onformation ring. Sara,  if you are physically abl
>>> e to show your own dog, learn as much as you can by watching the pro 
>>> handlers. 
>>> he style of showing is different between the all breed and speciality 
>>> rings. 
>>> how your dog and have fun.
>>> Diane
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