I do look for their history of judging GSD's when I consider a multi-breed judge at all breeds. I use infodog, for lack of a better source that I know of. AKC does not always have the best information, to me. If they come from a breed that has a standard that is clearly contrary to the GSD, I usually don't bother. I find that some judges who come from Collie's will put up an ass high dog if they don't see a lot of competition. I also listen at shows for which judges are being complained about the most. If a judge has a bad reputation in several breeds, I avoid them. Sheila Sally <sally@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I have a question for the Lister's. When you are considering judges to show under at an all breed show, do any of you do a history check and see what dog he or she started out in? If you do why? If a judge started out in Collies what would that tell me? +++++++++++++++++++++++ When I started out and did not know the judge I use to try to find out what their own breed was. If it was a head breed then that was important to know. etc. you better take good heads to him . Now with specialty judges I like to know not so much what they are showing at the time but what faults they have in their own kennel and looking to correct. I think if you have a fault you want to correct that is the first thing you notice when you are judging.If you have short flat croups that is sure going to jump out at you when in the ring. sally ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ Sheila of Miami Mernydex GSD's Loving Obedience Dog Training --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================