In a message dated 8/6/2005 4:06:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lfossland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: When you have a stud dog, don't you keep track of the progeny? It just makes good sense. Sort of. My hat is off to Mo, because she has a lot more info than I do re hip stats because her companion people x-ray (prelim) when they spay neuter. I usually only get calls when something goes wrong. (Including a couple who had a pup from one of my males who has some sort of awful gastro problem, poor dog NEVER had a firm stool, $$$$$$ later and nothing definitive, it turns out it was all the zucchini <from their garden> in olive oil they were giving him.) So, actually, the stud dog owner should have had a picture of what his dog and the bitch are able to produce together and if there were any problems then why do a 3rd and even 4th repeat? If I read the post correctly, the only thing that was possibly wrong by the time they did the third repeat was a bitch who would "maybe OFA fair". Going on that, I'd have done the 3rd repeat. I'm sure there's a lot to the story. The only thing you can do is try your darndest to do right by people. Even so, you aren't going to make everyone happy all of the time. It's easy as the bitch owner/breeder of record. You have a contract...if "this" happens, I will do "that". Folks can either agree, or they can walk away. As the owner of a male, it's not so black an white. Yes, you want to do good breedings, yes, you want to be there and answer questions and hand hold for the people who end up with one of your boys' puppies, certainly you want to know about any problems, yes, if something doesn't work out and the breeder doesn't step up and a puppy needs to be placed, you should be willing to help, but even so, realize that hindsight is 20-20 and you can't satisfy everyone. Kathy three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================