[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Fw: [amergsd] Stud Dog Owners

  • From: Elsyd1@xxxxxxx
  • To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 13:49:14 EDT

 
 
Wow, now the stud dog owner is responsible for problems with the buyers.  
List, there is a lot of stuff going on that is a personal vendetta. I am not  
going to address this topic again, as I know Jim and Edie, and they always do  
the right thing. Shalom, Syd.
PS( I was particularly interested in the way Jim and Edie had nothing but  
good things to say about Ken and Kathy...amazing, isn't it? 
 
In a message dated 8/6/2005 10:25:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, Rbuffdogs  
writes:
Hello
As with every story there are two sides.  There are inconsitancies  here and 
untruths in the post that was sent by Elsyd on behalf of another  party.  Now 
before anyone slams me , saying I am being nasty about Syd, I  love Syd to 
pieces, and would do anything for her. But I digress..
 
  If  in any line with any type of  animals ,the breeders  and stud owner can 
not be honest about the facts then it leaves victimized  owners with nothing. 
I am sick to death of people that claim to be standup and then when it  hits 
the fan ,  then do nothing. It is about breeders and breeding  parties that 
are only to happy to help, and cajole and revel in success and  sales, but when 
a failure happens, cant be bothered or say things when pressed  for help and I 
quote.. "please don't bother us futher  with this , it is  just too 
stressful." It is about SPIN CONTROL rather than standing up and  FIXING a 
mess.  It is 
about apathy , it is about integrity, and doing  your best to make amends in 
a tough situation.  It is about taking and  returning phonecalls from 
distraught owners.  It is about taking some  initiative and some responsibility 
after 
the fact and calling owners of your  stud or bitches' progeny to let them know 
there may be a problem with their  dog....or in the face of bad news, to call 
them, to HELP them, to SUPPORT  them, and to STAND BY YOUR ANIMALS,  and be 
true to your previous  statements.  I  don't care if you breed dogs, or 
chickens, if you  own the rooster or the hen, so to speak.
   This topic has been brought to light, because we are  being contacted 
DAILY by heartbroken owners, that canNOT GET CALLS RETURNED  OR get not much 
more 
than apathy or "gee, sorry" from anyone else.   We have brought this to light 
because this is a longstanding pattern with the  breeder, who is good at what 
she does, which is con and abuse people and their  trust.
 
It is not lost on me how ironic that all was "hunky dorry" when everyone  was 
winning, making money, puppies were being sold, bitches being bred...it  was 
all good.  Now, where is everyone ????  
People talk a big game about being open about health issues, and about  being 
standup individuals......until they are put to the test in a big  way.
I will not apologize for bringing to light a WHOLLY unethical  breeder.  I 
will not apologize for dislike of the apathy and excuses  heaped upon owners by 
the owners of both stud and dam. I will not apologize  for HATING the 
disloyalty that has left Ken and Myself to answer some very  difficult 
questions by 
heartbroken owners, when we sold  only two of the  eight dogs....we owned 
neither the sire nor the dam. But here we are, left  holding the bag......and I 
will 
not apologize for calling BS on the attempt at  spin control that is going 
on.  
We have NOTHING to hide, and no reason .   All we want is for  the owners to 
get satisfaction for their heartache, and for all the parties  involved in the 
ownership of the breeding animals to stand behind these  puppies......esp the 
breeder .
Oh yeah, everyone wants honesty and disclosure, until it involves someone  
they know or THINK they know third party...then they don't want  to believe it. 
Even when the facts are undeniable, even when proof is  positive, even when it 
is a pattern, even when STILL nothing has or is being  done for the owners.
 
So we are left with a decision, to save ourselves and do spin control on  a 
terrible situation, and give excuses like the other parties ...or to stand  up 
and try to HELP these owners....we chose the latter, and boy it sure is  
lonely out here.  But at least I can sleep at night.
I will make no further public comment on ANY of this as the details  were 
never intended to be public . Further emails on the subject will  have to come 
to 
me privately.   The whole matter makes me want to  throw up.
Kathy Gray  


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