[rollei_list] Re: OT: Miscellany
- From: "Eric Goldstein" <egoldste@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:20:53 -0400
But they don't get to have power on hot days! (it's true!)
Eric Goldstein
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On 9/10/07, Gene Johnson <genej2ster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I hear FRANCE is energy independent ;-)
>
> On 9/10/07, Marc James Small <marcsmall@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > At 06:16 PM 9/10/2007, eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > >Let me get this straight: GW is a leftist, the Nuremburg Doctrine is
> > >stupid, pumping every last drop of oil from under the earth's crust is
> > >a plan for energy independence, and the Republican Party didn't want
> > >the war in Iraq even though it made it possible (twice
> > >consecutively)... I think you're the one who has a way with words.
> >
> >
> > The Nuremburg Doctrines are based on horridly
> > shaky legal grounds and are most questionable
> > though it is Politically Incorrect to question
> > them. One minor example: in World War I, the
> > Germans regularly took hostages in Belgium and
> > shot them when problems arose, such as the
> > bush-whacking of a German soldier rolling home
> > drunk from an evening of frivolity. The Allies
> > fussed about this but did nothing and, in fact,
> > adopted the same policy when they occupied the
> > Rhineland following the German surrender in
> > 1918. In World War II, the Germans did the same,
> > and a number of them got hanged or shot or given
> > prison terms for doing the same. The point is
> > that you should TELL folks when the rules have
> > changed. I can go on. All of the Nuremburg
> > Doctrines are suspect and are based on bad
> > law. (I do support the result of ROW v WADE but
> > it is bad law based on a misreading of legal
> > precedent.) Let us keep the system clean. I can
> > rattle on at some length on this, but, yes, the
> > Nuremburg proceedings reduced themselves to
> > precisely what Churchill opposed, "victors' justice".
> >
> > I never said that the Republican Party (whatever
> > that is) supported or encouraged or opposed the
> > Iraq imbroglio. I simply stated that a lot of
> > the senior leadership of the Party opposed the
> > Iraq intervention. George W Bush is his own
> > person and he is the Chief Executive, so he has a
> > place of his own. It is not fair to damn the
> > Republican Party with the defalcations of the
> > Bushes, any more than it is to damn the Democrat
> > Party for the many dumb statements of any of that Party's senior officials.
> >
> > Energy Independence for the US reduces itself in
> > the end to either reducing US dependence on oil
> > or to improving our internal sources for
> > petroleum. You pays your money and you takes
> > your choice. There simply is not a third
> > choice. Wishful thinking can take us far but to
> > no avail. I see no immediate method for reducing
> > US dependence on oil other than doing as the
> > Europeans have done for generations by clamping
> > huge taxes on each gallon ("liter") of gasoline
> > sold, which will force USians to plan ahead each
> > trip they take. Or we can increase the US output
> > of oil. Can you find a third method for solving the problem?
> >
> > A temporary (100 years or so) solution would be
> > to have the US seize all of the Arab oil fields,
> > surround them with minefields and barbed wire
> > barricades and the like, and have the US Army's
> > Corps of Engineers run them. Tell OPEC they can
> > set the price within reason, but then refuse to
> > pay the profits over to dictatorships but to
> > place the profits in trust for the peoples of
> > those nations. It could be done, but it would be
> > nasty, and it would lead to the US becoming a
> > "pariah nation", albeit it would support us in
> > our cheap gasoline. I am not advocating this: I
> > am simply point out the reality that it is a feasible course of action.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir!
> >
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