[rollei_list] Re: OT: Miscellany

I hear FRANCE is energy independent ;-)

On 9/10/07, Marc James Small <marcsmall@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> At 06:16 PM 9/10/2007, eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>  >Let me get this straight: GW is a leftist, the Nuremburg Doctrine is
>  >stupid, pumping every last drop of oil from under the earth's crust is
>  >a plan for energy independence, and the Republican Party didn't want
>  >the war in Iraq even though it made it possible (twice
>  >consecutively)... I think you're the one who has a way with words.
>
>
> The Nuremburg Doctrines are based on horridly
> shaky legal grounds and are most questionable
> though it is Politically Incorrect to question
> them.  One minor example:  in World War I, the
> Germans regularly took hostages in Belgium and
> shot them when problems arose, such as the
> bush-whacking of a German soldier rolling home
> drunk from an evening of frivolity.  The Allies
> fussed about this but did nothing and, in fact,
> adopted the same policy when they occupied the
> Rhineland following the German surrender in
> 1918.  In World War II, the Germans did the same,
> and a number of them got hanged or shot or given
> prison terms for doing the same.  The point is
> that you should TELL folks when the rules have
> changed.   I can go on.  All of the Nuremburg
> Doctrines are suspect and are based on bad
> law.  (I do support the result of ROW v WADE but
> it is bad law based on a misreading of legal
> precedent.)  Let us keep the system clean.  I can
> rattle on at some length on this, but, yes, the
> Nuremburg proceedings reduced themselves to
> precisely what Churchill opposed, "victors' justice".
>
> I never said that the Republican Party (whatever
> that is) supported or encouraged or opposed the
> Iraq imbroglio.  I simply stated that a lot of
> the senior leadership of the Party opposed the
> Iraq intervention.  George W Bush is his own
> person and he is the Chief Executive, so he has a
> place of his own.  It is not fair to damn the
> Republican Party with the defalcations of the
> Bushes, any more than it is to damn the Democrat
> Party for the many dumb statements of any of that Party's senior officials.
>
> Energy Independence for the US reduces itself in
> the end to either reducing US dependence on oil
> or to improving our internal sources for
> petroleum.  You pays your money and you takes
> your choice.  There simply is not a third
> choice.  Wishful thinking can take us far but to
> no avail.  I see no immediate method for reducing
> US dependence on oil other than doing as the
> Europeans have done for generations by clamping
> huge taxes on each gallon ("liter") of gasoline
> sold, which will force USians to plan ahead each
> trip they take.  Or we can increase the US output
> of oil.  Can you find a third method for solving the problem?
>
> A temporary (100 years or so) solution would be
> to have the US seize all of the Arab oil fields,
> surround them with minefields and barbed wire
> barricades and the like, and have the US Army's
> Corps of Engineers run them.  Tell OPEC they can
> set the price within reason, but then refuse to
> pay the profits over to dictatorships but to
> place the profits in trust for the peoples of
> those nations.  It could be done, but it would be
> nasty, and it would lead to the US becoming a
> "pariah nation", albeit it would support us in
> our cheap gasoline.  I am not advocating this:  I
> am simply point out the reality that it is a feasible course of action.
>
> Marc
>
>
> msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir!
>
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