[roc-chat] Re: Space Camp for today's kids
- From: "Jim - TFJ" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 10:39:39 -0700
LOL,
I couldn't tell you how many times that our district has voted for
bonds that would reduce classroom sizes to about 20.
They're still at about 30+ students per class.
But if we would just pass this next bond to reduce class room sizes, that
will fix it!
Jim G.
/rant off.
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On Behalf Of R Dierking
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 10:26 AM
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Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Space Camp for today's kids
Very busy today with work, but felt compelled to jump back in on this one.
I'm no opponent of reality. In fact, sometimes I dish out too much myself -
even for adults. :-)
However, if you're a parent with kids in school, you've probably seen what
I'm talking about. You get a note from your kid's teacher saying that today
they had the opportunity to learn how a 'No' on some educational proposition
or reduction on teacher salaries will effect their education, and you say,
WTF is this?
So, yeah, I'm not a big fan of things that smell like secret agendas. To
me, it's right in there with special 'student' programs that when you take a
closer look are just things that adults wanted to do and just used kids to
get funding or approval, or whatever.
Richard Dierking
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Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 12:57:34 -0400
Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Space Camp for today's kids
From: airplaniac2002@xxxxxxxxx
To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Isn't it America's finest news source? Says so right at the top. C=
On May 30, 2014 12:51 PM, "Gregory Lyzenga" <lyzenga@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On May 30, 2014, at 9:45 AM, R Dierking <applerocketry@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thank you for posting the link David.
This is controversial for sure. For the age of the kids involved, I don't
think this kind of 'simulation' enriches their experience. I've seen
schools and teachers give 'lessons' that seem to me to be more an expression
of their own frustration than a beneficial learning experience for the kids.
Kind of like using children as messengers to their parents.
For example, since we know that space exploration is dangerous, should one
of the children be 'killed' in an accident during the program? They could
pick one of the astronaut kids, suddenly remove them from the program and
send them home saying, "see, it's dangerous, so now your dead." Then, all
the other kids could grieve, and maybe it could be their fault. Wow, what a
rewarding experience that would be! :-/
I just don't think that slamming the kids at a young age is valuable. SLI
and USLI teams learn about budgets and red-tape. Even TARC teams learn
about budget restraints through the process of building, launching, and
perhaps travel expenses. Sometimes dreams come before cold reality and the
dreams push us through the BS. These kids need to develop the momentum of
their dreams - the speed bumps will come.
Or, perhaps I'm being too protective of the children in the space camp
program?
Richard Dierking
Uh, Richard. You do know what "The Onion" is, don't you???
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Gregory A. Lyzenga <lyzenga@xxxxxxx>
Dept. of Physics, Harvey Mudd College (909) 621-8378
Claremont, CA 91711-5990 mobile (626) 808-5314
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