I should apologize; someone sent me a reaction to my post directly, and I responded on chat. No, evidently I'm ignorant of "The Onion." Sorry. Richard From: xsive.guy@xxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 09:55:11 -0700 Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Space Camp for today's kids To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Wait, Richard isn't an Onion writer? I thought we were getting a preview to an Onion Editorial or an Onion Letter to the Editor and I thought it was pretty good. Thanks, Mike Please forgive me Richard. ;-) On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Gregory Lyzenga <lyzenga@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: On May 30, 2014, at 9:45 AM, R Dierking <applerocketry@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Thank you for posting the link David. This is controversial for sure. For the age of the kids involved, I don't think this kind of 'simulation' enriches their experience. I've seen schools and teachers give 'lessons' that seem to me to be more an expression of their own frustration than a beneficial learning experience for the kids. Kind of like using children as messengers to their parents. For example, since we know that space exploration is dangerous, should one of the children be 'killed' in an accident during the program? They could pick one of the astronaut kids, suddenly remove them from the program and send them home saying, "see, it's dangerous, so now your dead." Then, all the other kids could grieve, and maybe it could be their fault. Wow, what a rewarding experience that would be! :-/ I just don't think that slamming the kids at a young age is valuable. SLI and USLI teams learn about budgets and red-tape. Even TARC teams learn about budget restraints through the process of building, launching, and perhaps travel expenses. Sometimes dreams come before cold reality and the dreams push us through the BS. These kids need to develop the momentum of their dreams - the speed bumps will come. Or, perhaps I'm being too protective of the children in the space camp program? Richard Dierking Uh, Richard… You do know what “The Onion” is, don’t you??? ----------------------------------------------------------Gregory A. Lyzenga <lyzenga@xxxxxxx> Dept. of Physics, Harvey Mudd College (909) 621-8378Claremont, CA 91711-5990 mobile (626) 808-5314