[roc-chat] Re: Space Camp for today's kids
- From: Paul Pittenger <ppittenger@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 10:42:57 -0700
here is my favorite Onion article ever...still in their archives.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/nations-experts-give-up,682/
enjoy!
Paul
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Jim - TFJ <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> LOL,
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> I couldn't tell you how many times that our district has voted for
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> bonds that would reduce classroom sizes to about 20.
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> They're still at about 30+ students per class.
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> But if we would just pass this next bond to reduce class room sizes, that
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> will fix it!
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> Jim G.
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> /rant off.
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> *From:* roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *R Dierking
> *Sent:* Friday, May 30, 2014 10:26 AM
> *To:* roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> *Subject:* [roc-chat] Re: Space Camp for today's kids
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> Very busy today with work, but felt compelled to jump back in on this one.
> I'm no opponent of reality. In fact, sometimes I dish out too much myself
> - even for adults. :-)
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> However, if you're a parent with kids in school, you've probably seen
> what I'm talking about. You get a note from your kid's teacher saying
> that today they had the opportunity to learn how a 'No' on some educational
> proposition or reduction on teacher salaries will effect their education,
> and you say, WTF is this?
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> So, yeah, I'm not a big fan of things that smell like secret agendas. To
> me, it's right in there with special 'student' programs that when you take
> a closer look are just things that adults wanted to do and just used
> kids to get funding or approval, or whatever.
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> Richard Dierking
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> Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 12:57:34 -0400
> Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Space Camp for today's kids
> From: airplaniac2002@xxxxxxxxx
> To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Isn't it America's finest news source? Says so right at the top. C=
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> On May 30, 2014 12:51 PM, "Gregory Lyzenga" <lyzenga@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On May 30, 2014, at 9:45 AM, R Dierking <applerocketry@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Thank you for posting the link David.
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> This is controversial for sure. For the age of the kids involved, I don't
> think this kind of 'simulation' enriches their experience. I've seen
> schools and teachers give 'lessons' that seem to me to be more an
> expression of their own frustration than a beneficial learning experience
> for the kids. Kind of like using children as messengers to their parents.
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> For example, since we know that space exploration is dangerous, should one
> of the children be 'killed' in an accident during the program? They could
> pick one of the astronaut kids, suddenly remove them from the program and
> send them home saying, "see, it's dangerous, so now your dead." Then, all
> the other kids could grieve, and maybe it could be their fault. Wow, what
> a rewarding experience that would be! :-/
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> I just don't think that slamming the kids at a young age is valuable. SLI
> and USLI teams learn about budgets and red-tape. Even TARC teams learn
> about budget restraints through the process of building, launching, and
> perhaps travel expenses. Sometimes dreams come before cold reality and the
> dreams push us through the BS. These kids need to develop the momentum of
> their dreams - the speed bumps will come.
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> Or, perhaps I'm being too protective of the children in the space camp
> program?
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> Richard Dierking
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> Uh, Richard… You do know what “The Onion” is, don’t you???
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