[roc-chat] Re: Space Camp for today's kids

  • From: Cliff Sojourner <cls@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 20:31:02 -0700


hilarious, Paul!

this is my current favorite:


 Top Theoretical Physicists, R&B Singers Meet To Debate Meaning Of Forever



http://www.theonion.com/articles/top-theoretical-physicists-rb-singers-meet-to-deba,35882/

"two hearts can beat as one ..."



On 2014-05-30 10:42, Paul Pittenger wrote:
here is my favorite Onion article ever...still in their archives.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/nations-experts-give-up,682/

enjoy!

Paul


On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Jim - TFJ <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    LOL,

    I couldn't tell you how many times that our district has voted for

    bonds that would reduce classroom sizes to about 20.

    They're still at about 30+ students per class.

    But if we would just pass this next bond to reduce class room
    sizes, that

    will fix it!

    Jim G.

    /rant off.

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    *Subject:* [roc-chat] Re: Space Camp for today's kids

    Very busy today with work, but felt compelled to jump back in on
    this one.
    I'm no opponent of reality.  In fact, sometimes I dish out too
    much myself - even for adults.  :-)

    However, if you're a parent with kids in school, you've probably
    seen what I'm talking about.  You get a note from your kid's
    teacher saying that today they had the opportunity
    to learn how a 'No' on some educational proposition or reduction
    on teacher salaries will effect their education, and you say, WTF
    is this?

    So, yeah, I'm not a big fan of things that smell like secret
    agendas.   To me, it's right in there with special 'student'
    programs that when you take a closer look are just things that
    adults wanted to do and just used kids to get funding or approval,
    or whatever.

    Richard Dierking

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    Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 12:57:34 -0400
    Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Space Camp for today's kids
    From: airplaniac2002@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:airplaniac2002@xxxxxxxxx>
    To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

    Isn't it America's finest news source? Says so right at the top. C=

    On May 30, 2014 12:51 PM, "Gregory Lyzenga" <lyzenga@xxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:lyzenga@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    On May 30, 2014, at 9:45 AM, R Dierking <applerocketry@xxxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:applerocketry@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        Thank you for posting the link David.

        This is controversial for sure.  For the age of the kids
        involved, I don't think this kind of 'simulation' enriches
        their experience.  I've seen schools and teachers give
        'lessons' that seem to me to be more an expression of their
        own frustration than a beneficial learning experience for the
        kids.  Kind of like using children as messengers to their parents.

        For example, since we know that space exploration is
        dangerous, should one of the children be 'killed' in an
        accident during the program?  They could pick one of the
        astronaut kids, suddenly remove them from the program and send
them home saying, "see, it's dangerous, so now your dead." Then, all the other kids could grieve, and maybe it could be
        their fault. Wow, what a rewarding experience that would be!  :-/

        I just don't think that slamming the kids at a young age is
        valuable.  SLI and USLI teams learn about budgets and
        red-tape.  Even TARC teams learn about budget restraints
        through the process of building, launching, and perhaps travel
        expenses.  Sometimes dreams come before cold reality and the
        dreams push us through the BS. These kids need to develop the
        momentum of their dreams - the speed bumps will come.

        Or, perhaps I'm being too protective of the children in the
        space camp program?

        Richard Dierking

    Uh, Richard… You do know what “The Onion” is, don’t you???

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