[roc-chat] Re: IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - ROC Launch Cancellation
- From: Norbert Soski <norbsoski@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 20:38:20 -0700 (PDT)
Yes, thank you very much to the ROC Board for their hard work and all their
effort to make this a #1 rocketry club. I look forward to this issue being
resolved and having an extra-special June ROCStock.
Norbert Soski
L2 NAR#86942
From: Jim Wold <bb.wolf2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 6:03 PM
>Subject: [roc-chat] Re: IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - ROC Launch Cancellation
>
>We have been fortunate to have a launch site that is available to us year
>round, barring rain of course, and the BLM pretty much leaves us alone. There
>were some wires crossed and we might miss a launch or even two but I still
>think we have nothing to complain about. Thanks to the board and especially
>Alan for all the work they are putting into this so we can all get out and fly.
>
>Jim Wold
>
>
>-----Original Message----- From: Allen H Farrington
>Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:39 PM
>To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [roc-chat] Re: IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - ROC Launch Cancellation
>
>Mike, et al -
>
>Thanks for the offer of help. I met with BLM yesterday, discussed the new
>application requirements and data needs, and have nearly everything required
>in place to submit our new application. The only open item is that I need to
>summarize our operating policies and procedures for them in the format they
>need. This will take me about 3-4 hours tonight and tomorrow night. I plan to
>submit the application to them on Friday.
>
>Unfortunately, they then have a process in place that will require them to do
>some checking (maps, safety assessment, etc…) and it just takes them about 30
>days to process. At that point, we start the second step which is to discuss
>fees, get insurance paperwork done, etc… At that point, they will issue a
>permit sometime within 30-60 more days.
>
>I don't want to give false hope or anything, but since we're more
>straightforward than a cross-country road race (which is what their procedures
>are setup for), then perhaps they will be able to speed things up. Given that
>there's one overworked guy doing all this for all the land from Death Valley
>down to the border and from the Ocean to Arizona, 30 days may be fast.
>
>I guess that my request is that everyone sit tight and let them get their
>process completed. Pressure and complaints should be directed at the ROC board
>and not BLM :-) !
>
>Oh, and everyone should go to the May 5th Trailer Cleaning to help us maintain
>our equipment and have a good time swapping tips, techniques, and rocket
>stories.
>
>Thanks.
>Allen Farrington
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Allen H. Farrington - L3
>ROC Board Member and Secretary
>NAR 73474, Tripoli 12280
>
>
>On Apr 11, 2012, at 5:24 PM, Lesnick, Mike wrote:
>
>> Is there anything we can do to assist with the process of gettgin the
>> permission restored?
>>
>> If you need any resources or help let us know
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Michael Lesnick
>> Axiom Healthcare Group
>> 18135 Santa Lauretta Cir
>> Fountain Valley, CA 92708
>> 714-594-5720 - Office Phone
>> 714-323-5968 - Cell
>> 714-968-7076 - Fax
>> MikeL@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
>> From: roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Gregory Lyzenga
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:51 PM
>> To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; roc-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [roc-chat] IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - ROC Launch Cancellation
>>
>> IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - ROC Launch Cancellation
>> ------------------------------------------------
>>
>> It is with great regret that the ROC board must announce the cancellation of
>> the upcoming April launch at Lucerne Dry Lake. This cancellation does not
>> have to do with any weather problems, but is related to issues surrounding
>> our BLM permit to use the land.
>>
>> Unfortunately, both ROC and the BLM have been caught up in some fallout from
>> the 2010 California 200 off-road racing accident that killed several people.
>> When we applied for our annual permit last fiscal year, the application
>> rules and requirements had been very recently changed and our application
>> was rejected. Unbeknownst to the ROC board, we didn't close the loop with
>> BLM and they didn't follow up with us as we continued to submit our monthly
>> reports and payments, assuming the permit existed. Due to budget cuts and
>> staffing shortages in the BLM office, nobody was aware of this situation
>> until just very recently. We met with BLM this week and have started the
>> process to re-establish our permit, but as a result of the fallout of the
>> racing accident the BLM is being very particular on the permitting process
>> which slows down the approvals, meaning that it may be three months before
>> we can get our permission to launch again.
>>
>> This is obviously a very troubling situation for us on the ROC board and for
>> all of our members and regular flyers. We are working as hard as we can
>> behind the scenes to restore our ability to fly as soon as possible. With
>> this in mind, we would ask that members please refrain from contacting the
>> BLM individually to inquire about the situation, so as not to complicate an
>> already delicate situation. Clearly it will be a hardship for the flyers
>> and for our vendors during this stand-down period, but we hope that many
>> members will be able to continue to fly and support the hobby at launches
>> held by our sister organizations in San Diego and central California.
>>
>> Please watch the ROC email lists or Facebook group for further information
>> on the situation as it develops. If you know of anyone planning to attend
>> who does not subscribe to ROC-chat or read Facebook updates, please pass
>> this information along to them.
>>
>> - Greg
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------
>> Greg Lyzenga
>> ROC Board Member - NAR #13295 / Tripoli #12088
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