[roc-chat] Re: IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - ROC Launch Cancellation

  • From: "Jim Wold" <bb.wolf2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:03:13 -0700

We have been fortunate to have a launch site that is available to us year round, barring rain of course, and the BLM pretty much leaves us alone. There were some wires crossed and we might miss a launch or even two but I still think we have nothing to complain about. Thanks to the board and especially Alan for all the work they are putting into this so we can all get out and fly.


Jim Wold


-----Original Message----- From: Allen H Farrington
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:39 PM
To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [roc-chat] Re: IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - ROC Launch Cancellation

Mike, et al -

Thanks for the offer of help. I met with BLM yesterday, discussed the new application requirements and data needs, and have nearly everything required in place to submit our new application. The only open item is that I need to summarize our operating policies and procedures for them in the format they need. This will take me about 3-4 hours tonight and tomorrow night. I plan to submit the application to them on Friday.

Unfortunately, they then have a process in place that will require them to do some checking (maps, safety assessment, etc…) and it just takes them about 30 days to process. At that point, we start the second step which is to discuss fees, get insurance paperwork done, etc… At that point, they will issue a permit sometime within 30-60 more days.

I don't want to give false hope or anything, but since we're more straightforward than a cross-country road race (which is what their procedures are setup for), then perhaps they will be able to speed things up. Given that there's one overworked guy doing all this for all the land from Death Valley down to the border and from the Ocean to Arizona, 30 days may be fast.

I guess that my request is that everyone sit tight and let them get their process completed. Pressure and complaints should be directed at the ROC board and not BLM :-) !

Oh, and everyone should go to the May 5th Trailer Cleaning to help us maintain our equipment and have a good time swapping tips, techniques, and rocket stories.

Thanks.
Allen Farrington
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Allen H. Farrington - L3
ROC Board Member and Secretary
NAR 73474, Tripoli 12280


On Apr 11, 2012, at 5:24 PM, Lesnick, Mike wrote:

Is there anything we can do to assist with the process of gettgin the permission restored?

If you need any resources or help let us know

Mike

Michael Lesnick
Axiom Healthcare Group
18135 Santa Lauretta Cir
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
714-594-5720 - Office Phone
714-323-5968 - Cell
714-968-7076 - Fax
MikeL@xxxxxxxxxxx



From: roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gregory Lyzenga
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:51 PM
To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; roc-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [roc-chat] IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - ROC Launch Cancellation

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - ROC Launch Cancellation
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It is with great regret that the ROC board must announce the cancellation of the upcoming April launch at Lucerne Dry Lake. This cancellation does not have to do with any weather problems, but is related to issues surrounding our BLM permit to use the land.

Unfortunately, both ROC and the BLM have been caught up in some fallout from the 2010 California 200 off-road racing accident that killed several people. When we applied for our annual permit last fiscal year, the application rules and requirements had been very recently changed and our application was rejected. Unbeknownst to the ROC board, we didn't close the loop with BLM and they didn't follow up with us as we continued to submit our monthly reports and payments, assuming the permit existed. Due to budget cuts and staffing shortages in the BLM office, nobody was aware of this situation until just very recently. We met with BLM this week and have started the process to re-establish our permit, but as a result of the fallout of the racing accident the BLM is being very particular on the permitting process which slows down the approvals, meaning that it may be three months before we can get our permission to launch again.

This is obviously a very troubling situation for us on the ROC board and for all of our members and regular flyers. We are working as hard as we can behind the scenes to restore our ability to fly as soon as possible. With this in mind, we would ask that members please refrain from contacting the BLM individually to inquire about the situation, so as not to complicate an already delicate situation. Clearly it will be a hardship for the flyers and for our vendors during this stand-down period, but we hope that many members will be able to continue to fly and support the hobby at launches held by our sister organizations in San Diego and central California.

Please watch the ROC email lists or Facebook group for further information on the situation as it develops. If you know of anyone planning to attend who does not subscribe to ROC-chat or read Facebook updates, please pass this information along to them.

- Greg

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Greg Lyzenga
ROC Board Member - NAR #13295 / Tripoli #12088


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