[roc-chat] Re: BP for Deployment of Main Question

  • From: Dave McCue <dmccue@xxxxxxx>
  • To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 12:18:51 -0800 (PST)

Please remember that electric match makers alway say to put matches in series - it takes no more than a 1.5V AA cell to light one, so putting two or three in series is no problem. THis also solves the problem of monitoring two or more matches, sine a loss of continuity anywhere will be detected by the electronics.


I do series match wiring all the time when I use multiple ematches to light big liquid propulsion engines. See links below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlkMiCtCxg0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOiaxfGpudM

You can also see the unusual recovery system I came up with for these rockets: side deployed! This is because the rocket is big and heavy, and needs to land on it's side to avoid unplanned damage; we assume we will break two fins upon landing.

By the way, the big 1000 square-foot parachute is deployed by BP charges that push out the pilot chute, with HPR recovery electronics making the decisions. This was one of several low altitude flights to test the recovery system.

Dave McCue

On Thu, 8 Dec 2011, Richard Dierking wrote:


One possible failure mode:  If it's in parallel, if one of the matches is bad and doesn't 
have continuity, you will not know, because the altimeter will detect continuity in the 
second and indicate that everything looks OK.  So one canister would go, but probably not be 
enough BP for a successful deployment.   We tested two matches in series yesterday, and they 
both went fine.  I've been using series for airstarts and haven't had a problem (up to 4 
engines).  I thought people were crazy when I first heard about using series, but when a 
match lights the "plasma ball" becomes very conductive for a moment.  However, I 
have not used series for deployment charges, so thought it would be a good idea to hear from 
people that had experience with this. Richard > From: xsive.guy@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 10:39:46 -0800
Subject: [roc-chat] Re: BP for Deployment of Main Question
To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Definitely in parallel.  Otherwise, when the first one burns out the
rest would stop getting current.  By wiring them in parallel even
after the first one goes the rest continue to get current.

I'd like to know the answers to your other questions though.

Thanks,
Mike

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Richard Dierking
<redierking@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Say your main deployment section is 7.5" diameter, 24" long and using three
(3) 2-56 nylon shear pins.  How much BP?

Also, what's the advantage of using two or more deployment canisters instead
of just one?  For multiple canisters, would you wire in series or parallel?
(One 9 volt battery and Perfectflite WD altimeter with main deployment at
1100'.)

Richard Dierking
BTW: Kurt, we're not intending to turn the nose into a second stage :-)



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