To some extent you can overcome the fogging with a restrainer, I tried some old Oriental Seagull a few months back and could not get a usable image. Tried Benzo and Pot Bromide and combinations of both - the paper was too far gone Mike -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of richard lahrson Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:09 PM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Oh How I Miss This Paper Hi! Even if the paper is old and fogged, can't this be cleaned up? I'm thinking of more restrainer. Best, Rich On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Richard Knoppow wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tim Daneliuk" <tundra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:26 PM >> Subject: [pure-silver] Oh How I Miss This Paper >> >> >>> I managed to get some new old stock Agfa Brovira BEH 111 paper >>> recently when someone closed down their darkroom. I made a print >>> with it last night. I'd forgotten how very lovely this stuff was. >>> >>> Is anyone making anything close to this (Arista? ...?) >>> -- >> >> I don't know of anything like the old Brovira. I had a lot of >> it, probably all fogged now. AGFA made some unique papers. I have >> some ancient AGFA and Ansco (who made the same stuff here) sample >> books and I think they made the best looking paper of any of the >> brands. I used to use Indiatone, if you think Kodak Opal was slow >> Indiatone made it look like a racehorse. >> > My favorite was Kodak Elite Fine Art. > One of the versions of New Oriental Seagull, while different, was good too. > I could make Ilford Galerie work pretty well, but I had more and more > trouble getting it. > > Right now, I do not really like any papers. I am wondering about just > making contact prints on Azo from my 4x5 negatives. I have given up on > color because I just cannot get results I like with color materials. > > -- > .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. > /V\ PGP-Key: 9A2FC99A Registered Machine 241939. > /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org > ^^-^^ 15:55:01 up 9 days, 30 min, 3 users, load average: 4.44, 4.75, > 4.71 > ====================================================================== > ======================================= > To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. > ====================================To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ============================================================================================================To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.