Thanks Bob, this bears trying out on some smaller sizes first to get the hang of it. This procedure takes me back to something I noticed some years ago while printing a difficult neg onto Forte Warmtone. One area I couldn't dodge enough no matter because of multiple places I was manipulating, so I used some flavor of Farmers. as I think there's more than one, to reduce an area that the client wanted lighter. After all was said and done, I noticed that the bleached area was noticeably cooler than the unbleached area. Is this a known effect of bleaching when working w/warmtone papers or was it perhaps specific to the Forte paper I was using? Eric ________________________________ From: BOB KISS <bobkiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, January 28, 2011 5:59:23 AM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Oh How I Miss This Paper DEAR ERIC, My method is veeeeeeeeeeeeery scientific! ;-)) I put 3 L water in a 16X20 tray and add 1 plastic teaspoon of Ferricyanide. In the next tray I put 3 liters of Adam’s “plain hypo” which actually has a little sodium sulfite in it. Using fixed, and plain water washed, wet prints, I immerse one print for around 30 secs, drain for 10 secs (depending on size) then immerse it in the hypo with agit. I watch as the bleaching takes place. If it is enough I allow it to fix for 5 more mins and proceed with rinse, toning, HCA etc. If it is not cleared enough I wash the print for 5 mins and repeat the process. As more prints go through the Ferricyanide bath you will need to extend the time in it to 45 secs and more. When it reaches a minute to get any decent bleaching, replace it and go back to 30 secs. I do not claim that this is proper procedure…I only state that it has worked very well for me. *****Remember to start with a dark, slightly less contrasty print as the bleach will lighten everything up and slightly increase the contrast. CHEERS! BOB ________________________________ From:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric Nelson Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:07 PM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Oh How I Miss This Paper Bob I'm curious as to what dilutions of, I assume Farmers, that you uses to deal with your fog? I have a lot of Forte that went south years ago but I'll bet could be brought back via that method. Eric ________________________________ From:BOB KISS <bobkiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 4:53:05 PM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Oh How I Miss This Paper I have had decent results from old, fogged paper by printing dark and a little flat and bleaching back. Takes some practice but you can get results. Of course, nothing is as great as fresh paper, properly exposed and processed. CHEERS! BOB __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5826 (20110128) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5826 (20110128) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com