[pure-silver] Re: New old home, new lab questions

  • From: mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 11:01:22 -0700

Don't be intimidated by plumbing.  With a little common sense and determination you can do much of it yourself, but this may not be the project on which to learn.  IF you got through RIT, you can get through basic plumbing stuff.  Yet don't expect to get everything you need in one trip to the hardware store.  It just comes with the territory.  When a plumber costs around $125 an hour here, it adds up in a hurry.  Still the more advanced stuff needs someone with more knowledge and experience than a typical homeowner.  Then you can make the job more expensive not less.

Started smelling something the other day and went out to run a snake down the vent to make sure it wasn't clogged.  The snake slipped out of my hand and down the vent pipe.  To quote Homer Simpson, "DOH".  I got the leak detector people coming tomorrow to see about the smell and to find the metal snake that is in there somewhere.  IF they can get fish it out simply, I will be thrilled to pay them.  IF not, I am busting out walls and maybe busting up concrete.  I should have thought first, but its like racing.  If you race, you will wreck and that's racing.  When I make a mistake like that I learn from it and go, "that's plumbing."
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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: New old home, new lab questions
From: Eric Nelson <emanmb@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, May 04, 2010 10:05 am
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Thanks for all the info!  A lot to consider here.
Plumbing kinda goes over my head so I've passed those posts on to my plumbing guy who's an RIT grad like myself and an excellent craftsman.
Right now I'm walking the fence between painting and putting down self-adhesive or no adhesive tile squares.
Jean-David, for some reason my email is blocking your posts but I've seen them on the archive.

Eric

From: harry kalish <hksvk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 7:31:16 AM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: New old home, new lab questions

Local plumbing codes specify a minimum grade that a drain line should descend into the main soil line. This is to insure a sufficient rate of drainage. But there are other factors too, I think, like drain line length, diameters, (etc.?). My plumber told me that he would exceed the code a little bit because of where I wanted my sink to be located in relation to the main drain line below. Sure enough, my sink does not drain quite as quickly as it ideally would, but still quite good enough.

This would be another factor to consider when designing a new darkroom in a pre-existing situation. Ideally, the sink drain would be located directly above the building’s main drain line.

Harry


On 5/3/10 11:04 PM, "mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Well I have had both experiences, and sometimes from the same guy.  The guy that waited on me yesterday about a plumbing issue was a licensed retired plumber.  Gave me some good advise yesterday.  I listened.  Not that long ago when I did a rather unusual tie into a drain line the same guy said the water from the washer would back up into my darkroom sink.  The water from the washer went into the line straight down, the drain line to my sink goes a bit uphill and the last time I checked water doesn't roll up hill.  He was sure my sink would be full of water, but its never been anything but dry as a bone.

There are some very good guys working at all home improvement stores, and some very bad ones too.  If it doesn't seem right, there probably is a reason and its time to ask a few more questions and probably someone else too.  Then make a judgment.


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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: New old home, new lab questions
From: Tim Daneliuk <tundra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, May 03, 2010 4:26 pm
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

On 5/3/2010 6:01 PM, harry kalish wrote:
<SNIP>

> Someone has mentioned Home Depot. I suggest that you can go very wrong
> there, not only expense-wise (unless you are buying one of their
> loss-leaders of the week), but inferior products, and time, time, time.
> A few of the orange aproned people may know a thing or two, but many
> haven’t a clue. Remember, these are the ones who are working at minimum
> wage and getting jerked around by the corporate staff at every turn.
> IMHO, specialty shops are the way to go for big benefits, especially in
> the long run.
>
> Good luck.
> --Harry

This must vary greatly by store.  I spent a year working on various
home improvement projects, among which was the darkroom, and I had
consistently excellent service, advice, and pricing from HD.  It was the
specialty plumbing store that carefully instructed me to install the
backflow valves incorrectly and the specialty electrical store that
vastly overcharged for things like 4 gang switch boxes.  The HDs in
my area have tended to hire a lot of retired/unemployed tradesmen
in the past and these guys were a font of knowledge in answering my
dumb questions.

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