Elias Roustom wrote: > Ok, I give... > > But because I am very interested in this topic, I'd love to hear where > others draw line between hand-printed and machine-printed. I'm assuming > that many here practice craft regularly, and have given this some > thought (or would like to). > > We've got freezing rain today - not snow - and there'll be no bike ride. > > Elias > <Veering 90 degrees, but still On Topic ...> IMHO, methinks you all may be missing the real point. Digital "Photography" and print making isn't photography at all *it is an entirely new artform*. Although the two media a related, they are fundamentally different. A Steinway piano and a modern synthesizer or sampler have more-or-less identical keys and a common musical history, but they are used - for the most part - to express entirely different kinds of music that are evolving distinctly from one another. To me, the distinction between traditional silver and digital imaging is the difference between painting, photography, and sculpting. All are visual arts, but all are profoundly different from each other. As to the hand printed v. machine printed question, this seems sort of self evident to me. It is "machine made" if the process of producing the print was via some kind of machinery AND there was no human creative intervention in that process. An ink jet print is no more machine made than a print made under an enlarger. Both of them are machines, both require human artistic intervention in the mechanical process. So, one could - after lots of edits, corrections, etc. - even consider a digi-image sent to the local drugstore for printing, "hand made" in some sense. OTOH, blindly shooting 25 fps on the latest DSLR and shoving the resulting unmodified files to that aforementioned drug store for printing would constitute a "machine made" result. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.