DEAR ELIAS, Hey! I am dyed in the wool, silver gelatin kinda guy. BUT, I do some digital work. What you have not related is that the trimming, dodging, burning, testing, contrast changing, etc., etc., that are done under the enlarger (as well as spotting) are done at the computer...by hand! My hand on the mouse has messed up many Frotoshop burns, dodges, spotting, etc. The good news is that I just back up a few steps in "history" and correct it instead of flashing and processing the piece of paper (to have some one sided black paper for dodging & burning) or tossing it in the rubbish and getting out another piece of paper to try again. There is hand work (legerdemain?) requiring manual dexterity in BOTH processes. CHEERS! BOB -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Elias Roustom Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 10:52 AM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: "Hand Printed" > That would be *one* definition of "hand-made", and a fairly > conservative > definition at that. Being an ardent liberal, I'd hate to disparage the liberal definition of handmade, but if you consult a dictionary... So as I worked in my darkroom last night to make some very quick prints for a school project of my daughter's, I noticed that my hands had no time to rest, and the controlled employment of them from trimming of paper to the cutting of masks to the use tongs was essential to product. The prints were indeed handprinted. So by that definition, the ink jet prints are what? You use your hands to put the paper into the feed tray. You go back to the keyboard and key "Command, or Control, P", mouse click options, key in some values, and then press (with a finger) "Return, or Enter." The printer goes whoosh whoosh for about 10 minutes, while you go get a coffee or take a phone call, then you take the print out of the tray, with your hands. Comparing the two process, we can eliminate the projection/ sensitization with the machine applied ink, and we end up with both needing hands to become prints. So Ok, the ink jet prints are hand printed after all. When I teach students how to sew books, by hand, someone is bound to ask whether this is how all books are made, and I have to answer "Sort of" or more appropriate for this age "Virtually." > No awe necessary ;-) It's a typical Saturday ride for me... 74 miles. Until I got another sinus infection three weeks ago, and the weather took a turn for the colder, I was riding 16 miles to work and back twice a week. Never felt better. A 56 mile ride is impressive, and 74 miles is really impressive. E. ============================================================================ ================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3651 (20081129) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.