well to be even more pedantic, we do (conceptually) have all those noun cases, we just don't change the noun endings to indicate them other than an apostrophe s for the genitive. -- http://www.feline1.co.uk On Wed 27/04/11 10:00 AM , Timothy Pederick pederick@xxxxxxxxx sent: On 27 April 2011 16:50, David Davis wrote: the thing with Latin loan words in English is that we do *not* decline them, as English doesn't have cases - Sure we do: nouns have nominative and possessive cases, and pronouns have a bit more variety. Also declension covers plurals, and that's really the form of declension we're talking about. English borrows Latin plural forms for many Latin loan words. Or to put it another way, if English _never_ used Latin declensions for Latin loan words, "bacteria" wouldn't be used in English at all; we'd have "bacteriums" instead. :-) -- Tim Pederick