Re: lynix question:
- From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:44:46 -0500
But the API has to get the info from somewhere -- and that has to have software
associated with it. Isn't the API you are talking about just a layer over the
video driver? Jaws uses whatever hooks the OS gives in addition to the video
driver.
Well, I have not hacked that particular type of code so I'll defer. If NVDA has
a way of accessing the info it needs without using the video driver, you would
think FS and GW Micro would have borrowed the mechanism by now -- after all,
NVDA is open source.
Cheers.
--le
----- Original Message -----
From: BlueScale
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: lynix question:
Hi,
Somehow I missed the question about the video driver the first time around.
From what I know, NVDA shouldn't depend on a video driver because it uses APIs
to get the job done. This means, I think, that it takes direction directly
from the operating system and/or the program you are using. There are no video
hooks in NVDA.
On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 23:10 -0600, Nimer wrote:
Most drivers are built in to Linux, and windows drivers are different
than linux drivers.
Thanks
Nimer J
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tribble wrote:
> I have always wanted to try NVDA but never had time. That is a windows
> screen reader however, correct?
> I am wondering if it would work without a video driver.
> How do I know it wouldn't have the same problem as jaws? Don't all
> screen readers need an intact video driver?
> Thanx
> --le
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* BlueScale <mailto:bluescale1976@xxxxxxx>
> *To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:03 PM
> *Subject:* Re: lynix question:
>
>
> Hi,
> So, if I followed this thread correctly, you don't have a cd drive
> to run a recovery disk or boot a live Linux CD. Your computer may
> or may not have a recovery system that works, and Jaws won't work
> on it... REmember, when going up the creek it is always best to
> bring a pattle. *grin* Well, I cdan't help much with the Windows
> or Jaws stuff, but here's something that should get you up and
> running in Linux. Ubuntu specifically. First, though, if you
> want a screen reader to help you through the installation, you can
> get NVDA from:
> http://www.nvda-project.org/
> It's free, so no need to worry about having to sell internal
> organs to get a copy. After that, if you still want to try out
> Linux, there's a program called Wubi that allows LUbuntu to be
> installed in Windows. Even though it is installed as a Windows
> program, it is still Ubuntu, you have to restart and press down
> arrow once to get to it. The installer downloads the packages you
> need and installs them. You will need about 10GB of disk space
> you can of course give it more space if you want. Here's the link
> for the Wubi page:
> http://wubi-installer.org/
> It's no more difficult than installing a normal program so you
> don't have to be too tech savvy to get it up and running. After
> trying it briefly, my whole family has switched exclusively to Ubuntu.
>
> On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 21:39 -0500, tribble wrote:
>> I know, it is F8, but where to go from there is what I don't know. It
>> requires sight, and I have no tech savvy members of my family present.
>> But I'm sure we can figure it out...
>> Hopefully...
>> --le
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Stephen S. Disbrow" <info@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> Usually you need to hit an F key while booting to get to such
>> partitions. I have a couple of IBM Think Centers, and that's what you
>> need
>> to do to reload the system from scratch. I just don't rememberwhat the F
>> key
>> is now for them, but your's is probably different anyway.
>>
>> Steve D.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>
>>
>> > What I was told is that there is a separate partition or section of the
>> > disk
>> > where the recovery software is located. Running this will reinitialize
>> > everything back to its original state -- zapping all data files in the
>> > process.
>> > I have already backed up the data so I want to use this "ground 0"
>> > program.
>> > I just don't know where to find it or what to look for if I get a
>> > non-tech-savvy sighted family member to help me.
>> > Thanx
>> > --le
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 7:39 PM
>> > Subject: Re: lynix question:
>> >
>> >
>> > ok, what I was talking about is my comp, and several others I have
>> seen in
>> > the recent past have a C: drive and a D: drive set up on the hard
>> drive,
>> > then the CD/DVD RW drive is the E: drive, and the files that you could
>> use
>> > for a reformat/reload of the c drive, and for creation of your restore
>> > disks
>> > was in that D drive,
>> >
>> > now, there was a while that they put the files in the windows folder
>> and
>> > folks were supposed to make there disks soon after purchase or risk
>> > loosing
>> > them, but not knowing your comp, I don't know if this was the case.
>> >
>> > sorry I can't assist more,
>> > inthane
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:45 PM
>> > Subject: Re: lynix question:
>> >
>> >
>> >> Inthane, the restore folder no longer exists as I went into system
>> >> performance and disabled rollbacks. This trashes the database of
>> >> snapshots
>> >> and frees up disk space. After doing this dangerous step i found I
>> only
>> >> gained 4gb of free space. *sigh*
>> >> What I want is to find that sector where the recovery files are loaded
>> >> and
>> >> reinitialize the system to its basic state.
>> >> Alas, this will require a sightling present.
>> >> As for the d drive, that only helps if I have a cd to put in it,
>> which I
>> >> don't.
>> >> Happy hacking.
>> >> --le
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:36 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Laura,
>> >>
>> >> 1. usually the drivers are available, either in a folder on the C
>> drive
>> >> along with restore files, or more usually now a days, on a D drive of
>> the
>> >> comp.
>> >> 2. no turning off that feature does not ka bosh the reloading
>> >> capabilities.
>> >> 3. usually there is an item in the start menu, often in the system
>> tools
>> >> folder that may look like a second "system restore", and at least on
>> my
>> >> comp, the names almost the same, system reset, which included an
>> >> application
>> >> to create my restore disks, one to load/reload the drivers and certain
>> >> programs like Norton and MacAfee anti-spyware, and a third for a total
>> >> wipe
>> >> and reload of the system with options to "try to save" data and do the
>> >> deed,
>> >> or just "wipe everything and reload".
>> >>
>> >> 4. you should be able to get your drivers off the manufactures
>> website as
>> >> well, I know I can, and have done so for others.
>> >> 5. I am fairly sure that the drivers are quite different, since I have
>> >> seen
>> >> driver packages for Linux along with the windows ones on sites for
>> video
>> >> cards and the like, but I don't think they will be included with the
>> >> restore
>> >> set.
>> >>
>> >> HTH,
>> >> inthane
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:36 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Hello -- while we're on the subject of linux --
>> >>> I've never installed linux, but would like to do so on an old laptop.
>> >>> However I don't know the drivers I need or where or how to find out.
>> >>> Windows xp is on it how, but it is in a fractured state in which jaws
>> >>> can't
>> >>> work as something has zapped the video driver, and I don't know
>> where to
>> >>> find this driver on the net. (It's a long story -- don't ask
>> *frowny*).
>> >>> I
>> >>> can't roll back the OS because that has been disabled in order to
>> free
>> >>> up
>> >>> space on the disk.
>> >>>
>> >>> Does anyone know how to find out what driver I need? Are the drivers
>> the
>> >>> same in windows as they are in linux? (I doubt it, but I am not a
>> driver
>> >>> guru.)
>> >>> If linux drivers are different, where can I find them?
>> >>> This laptop did not come with recovery CDs, so I assume there is a
>> >>> segment
>> >>> reserved on disk to put it back in its initial state, right? Has
>> anyone
>> >>> ever
>> >>> done this? I know it would require sighted assistance, but I am
>> >>> wondering
>> >>> if the fact that I disabled rollbacks might have zapped this feature
>> as
>> >>> well. Does anyone know?
>> >>>
>> >>> If anyone has any answers I would love to hear them!
>> >>> TIA
>> >>> --le
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: "Nimer" <nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> >>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> >>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:17 PM
>> >>> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> The beta is workable, and I recommend that you use the desktop
>> version.
>> >>> It has an accessible installer.
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> Nimer J
>> >>>
>> >>> Nimer M. Jaber
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>> >>> Charles E. Black wrote:
>> >>>> Will I need visual assistance to install it? Is there a way to load
>> >>>> Lynix
>> >>>> using speech? Thanks!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Charles E. Black
>> >>>> 4127 Pinehaven Ct.
>> >>>> Columbia, SC 29205
>> >>>> Phone: (803) 790-5586
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>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>> >>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris
>> >>>> Hallsworth
>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:10 PM
>> >>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> All of these, Ubuntu will answer your questions. It has both a
>> console
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> a
>> >>>>
>> >>>> GUI interface. You can get it, free, from www.ubuntu.com
>> <http://www.ubuntu.com>.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Chris Hallsworth
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>> >>>> msn: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>> skype: chrishallsworth7266
>> >>>> klango: chrishallsworth
>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>> From: "Charles E. Black" <charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> >>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 3:21 PM
>> >>>> Subject: lynix question:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Hello:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Is anyone aware of a lynix system that does the following:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 1. has an built in speech engine?
>> >>>>> 2. Can run through a computers speech card?
>> >>>>> 3. What type of interface does it have, (console or gui)?
>> >>>>> 4. What is it called?
>> >>>>> 5. Where can I obtain it?
>> >>>>> 6. How much will it cost?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks for any help.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Charles E. Black
>> >>>>> 4127 Pinehaven Ct.
>> >>>>> Columbia, SC 29205
>> >>>>> Phone: (803) 790-5586
>> >>>>> Cell: (803) 201-0499
>> >>>>> Email: charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>>>
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