Re: lynix question:
- From: BlueScale <bluescale1976@xxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:47:11 -0400
Hi,
Somehow I missed the question about the video driver the first time
around. From what I know, NVDA shouldn't depend on a video driver
because it uses APIs to get the job done. This means, I think, that it
takes direction directly from the operating system and/or the program
you are using. There are no video hooks in NVDA.
On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 23:10 -0600, Nimer wrote:
> Most drivers are built in to Linux, and windows drivers are different
> than linux drivers.
> Thanks
> Nimer J
>
> Nimer M. Jaber
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> tribble wrote:
> > I have always wanted to try NVDA but never had time. That is a windows
> > screen reader however, correct?
> > I am wondering if it would work without a video driver.
> > How do I know it wouldn't have the same problem as jaws? Don't all
> > screen readers need an intact video driver?
> > Thanx
> > --le
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* BlueScale <mailto:bluescale1976@xxxxxxx>
> > *To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > *Sent:* Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:03 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: lynix question:
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > So, if I followed this thread correctly, you don't have a cd drive
> > to run a recovery disk or boot a live Linux CD. Your computer may
> > or may not have a recovery system that works, and Jaws won't work
> > on it... REmember, when going up the creek it is always best to
> > bring a pattle. *grin* Well, I cdan't help much with the Windows
> > or Jaws stuff, but here's something that should get you up and
> > running in Linux. Ubuntu specifically. First, though, if you
> > want a screen reader to help you through the installation, you can
> > get NVDA from:
> > http://www.nvda-project.org/
> > It's free, so no need to worry about having to sell internal
> > organs to get a copy. After that, if you still want to try out
> > Linux, there's a program called Wubi that allows LUbuntu to be
> > installed in Windows. Even though it is installed as a Windows
> > program, it is still Ubuntu, you have to restart and press down
> > arrow once to get to it. The installer downloads the packages you
> > need and installs them. You will need about 10GB of disk space
> > you can of course give it more space if you want. Here's the link
> > for the Wubi page:
> > http://wubi-installer.org/
> > It's no more difficult than installing a normal program so you
> > don't have to be too tech savvy to get it up and running. After
> > trying it briefly, my whole family has switched exclusively to Ubuntu.
> >
> > On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 21:39 -0500, tribble wrote:
> >> I know, it is F8, but where to go from there is what I don't know. It
> >> requires sight, and I have no tech savvy members of my family present.
> >> But I'm sure we can figure it out...
> >> Hopefully...
> >> --le
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Stephen S. Disbrow" <info@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:30 PM
> >> Subject: Re: lynix question:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> Usually you need to hit an F key while booting to get to such
> >> partitions. I have a couple of IBM Think Centers, and that's what you
> >> need
> >> to do to reload the system from scratch. I just don't rememberwhat the
> >> F key
> >> is now for them, but your's is probably different anyway.
> >>
> >> Steve D.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>>
> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:04 PM
> >> Subject: Re: lynix question:
> >>
> >>
> >> > What I was told is that there is a separate partition or section of
> >> the
> >> > disk
> >> > where the recovery software is located. Running this will
> >> reinitialize
> >> > everything back to its original state -- zapping all data files in
> >> the
> >> > process.
> >> > I have already backed up the data so I want to use this "ground 0"
> >> > program.
> >> > I just don't know where to find it or what to look for if I get a
> >> > non-tech-savvy sighted family member to help me.
> >> > Thanx
> >> > --le
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 7:39 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: lynix question:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ok, what I was talking about is my comp, and several others I have
> >> seen in
> >> > the recent past have a C: drive and a D: drive set up on the hard
> >> drive,
> >> > then the CD/DVD RW drive is the E: drive, and the files that you
> >> could use
> >> > for a reformat/reload of the c drive, and for creation of your
> >> restore
> >> > disks
> >> > was in that D drive,
> >> >
> >> > now, there was a while that they put the files in the windows folder
> >> and
> >> > folks were supposed to make there disks soon after purchase or risk
> >> > loosing
> >> > them, but not knowing your comp, I don't know if this was the case.
> >> >
> >> > sorry I can't assist more,
> >> > inthane
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:45 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: lynix question:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Inthane, the restore folder no longer exists as I went into system
> >> >> performance and disabled rollbacks. This trashes the database of
> >> >> snapshots
> >> >> and frees up disk space. After doing this dangerous step i found I
> >> only
> >> >> gained 4gb of free space. *sigh*
> >> >> What I want is to find that sector where the recovery files are
> >> loaded
> >> >> and
> >> >> reinitialize the system to its basic state.
> >> >> Alas, this will require a sightling present.
> >> >> As for the d drive, that only helps if I have a cd to put in it,
> >> which I
> >> >> don't.
> >> >> Happy hacking.
> >> >> --le
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> >> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:36 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: lynix question:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Laura,
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. usually the drivers are available, either in a folder on the C
> >> drive
> >> >> along with restore files, or more usually now a days, on a D drive
> >> of the
> >> >> comp.
> >> >> 2. no turning off that feature does not ka bosh the reloading
> >> >> capabilities.
> >> >> 3. usually there is an item in the start menu, often in the system
> >> tools
> >> >> folder that may look like a second "system restore", and at least
> >> on my
> >> >> comp, the names almost the same, system reset, which included an
> >> >> application
> >> >> to create my restore disks, one to load/reload the drivers and
> >> certain
> >> >> programs like Norton and MacAfee anti-spyware, and a third for a
> >> total
> >> >> wipe
> >> >> and reload of the system with options to "try to save" data and do
> >> the
> >> >> deed,
> >> >> or just "wipe everything and reload".
> >> >>
> >> >> 4. you should be able to get your drivers off the manufactures
> >> website as
> >> >> well, I know I can, and have done so for others.
> >> >> 5. I am fairly sure that the drivers are quite different, since I
> >> have
> >> >> seen
> >> >> driver packages for Linux along with the windows ones on sites for
> >> video
> >> >> cards and the like, but I don't think they will be included with the
> >> >> restore
> >> >> set.
> >> >>
> >> >> HTH,
> >> >> inthane
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>>
> >> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> >> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:36 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: lynix question:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hello -- while we're on the subject of linux --
> >> >>> I've never installed linux, but would like to do so on an old
> >> laptop.
> >> >>> However I don't know the drivers I need or where or how to find
> >> out.
> >> >>> Windows xp is on it how, but it is in a fractured state in which
> >> jaws
> >> >>> can't
> >> >>> work as something has zapped the video driver, and I don't know
> >> where to
> >> >>> find this driver on the net. (It's a long story -- don't ask
> >> *frowny*).
> >> >>> I
> >> >>> can't roll back the OS because that has been disabled in order to
> >> free
> >> >>> up
> >> >>> space on the disk.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Does anyone know how to find out what driver I need? Are the
> >> drivers the
> >> >>> same in windows as they are in linux? (I doubt it, but I am not a
> >> driver
> >> >>> guru.)
> >> >>> If linux drivers are different, where can I find them?
> >> >>> This laptop did not come with recovery CDs, so I assume there is a
> >> >>> segment
> >> >>> reserved on disk to put it back in its initial state, right? Has
> >> anyone
> >> >>> ever
> >> >>> done this? I know it would require sighted assistance, but I am
> >> >>> wondering
> >> >>> if the fact that I disabled rollbacks might have zapped this
> >> feature as
> >> >>> well. Does anyone know?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If anyone has any answers I would love to hear them!
> >> >>> TIA
> >> >>> --le
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>> From: "Nimer" <nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx>>
> >> >>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> >>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:17 PM
> >> >>> Subject: Re: lynix question:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The beta is workable, and I recommend that you use the desktop
> >> version.
> >> >>> It has an accessible installer.
> >> >>> Thanks
> >> >>> Nimer J
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Nimer M. Jaber
> >> >>>
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> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Charles E. Black wrote:
> >> >>>> Will I need visual assistance to install it? Is there a way to
> >> load
> >> >>>> Lynix
> >> >>>> using speech? Thanks!
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Charles E. Black
> >> >>>> 4127 Pinehaven Ct.
> >> >>>> Columbia, SC 29205
> >> >>>> Phone: (803) 790-5586
> >> >>>> Cell: (803) 201-0499
> >> >>>> Email: charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris
> >> >>>> Hallsworth
> >> >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:10 PM
> >> >>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>> Subject: Re: lynix question:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> All of these, Ubuntu will answer your questions. It has both a
> >> console
> >> >>>> and
> >> >>>> a
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> GUI interface. You can get it, free, from www.ubuntu.com
> >> <http://www.ubuntu.com>.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> Chris Hallsworth
> >> >>>> e-mail: christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>> msn: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>> skype: chrishallsworth7266
> >> >>>> klango: chrishallsworth
> >> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>>> From: "Charles E. Black" <charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx>>
> >> >>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 3:21 PM
> >> >>>> Subject: lynix question:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Hello:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Is anyone aware of a lynix system that does the following:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> 1. has an built in speech engine?
> >> >>>>> 2. Can run through a computers speech card?
> >> >>>>> 3. What type of interface does it have, (console or gui)?
> >> >>>>> 4. What is it called?
> >> >>>>> 5. Where can I obtain it?
> >> >>>>> 6. How much will it cost?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Thanks for any help.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Charles E. Black
> >> >>>>> 4127 Pinehaven Ct.
> >> >>>>> Columbia, SC 29205
> >> >>>>> Phone: (803) 790-5586
> >> >>>>> Cell: (803) 201-0499
> >> >>>>> Email: charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>>>
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