Re: lynix question:

  • From: BlueScale <bluescale1976@xxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:39:51 -0400

yes, it's a Windows screen reader.  I used to use it back when I used
Windows.  It works very well and I gave uup all commertial screen
readers including Jaws and didn't have any problems.  I have heard that
it is even better now.



On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 22:32 -0500, tribble wrote:
> I have always wanted to try NVDA but never had time. That is a windows
> screen reader however, correct?
> I am wondering if it would work without a video driver.
> How do I know it wouldn't have the same problem as jaws? Don't all
> screen readers need an intact video driver?
> Thanx
> --le
>  
>         ----- Original Message ----- 
>         From: BlueScale 
>         To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>         Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:03 PM
>         Subject: Re: lynix question:
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         Hi,
>         So, if I followed this thread correctly, you don't have a cd
>         drive to run a recovery disk or boot a live Linux CD.  Your
>         computer may or may not have a recovery system that works, and
>         Jaws won't work on it...  REmember, when going up the creek it
>         is always best to bring a pattle. *grin*  Well, I cdan't help
>         much with the Windows or Jaws stuff, but here's something that
>         should get you up and running in Linux.  Ubuntu specifically.
>         First, though, if you want a screen reader to help you through
>         the installation, you can get NVDA from:
>         http://www.nvda-project.org/
>         It's free, so no need to worry about having to sell internal
>         organs to get a copy.  After that, if you still want to try
>         out Linux, there's a program called Wubi that allows LUbuntu
>         to be installed in Windows.  Even though it is installed as a
>         Windows program, it is still Ubuntu, you have to restart and
>         press down arrow once to get to it.  The installer downloads
>         the packages you need and installs them.  You will need about
>         10GB of disk space you can of course give it more space if you
>         want.  Here's the link for the Wubi page:
>         http://wubi-installer.org/
>         It's no more difficult than installing a normal program so you
>         don't have to be too tech savvy to get it up and running.
>         After trying it briefly, my whole family has switched
>         exclusively to Ubuntu.
>         
>         On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 21:39 -0500, tribble wrote: 
>         
>         > I know, it is F8, but where to go from there is what I don't know. 
> It 
>         > requires sight, and I have no tech savvy members of my family 
> present.
>         > But I'm sure we can figure it out...
>         > Hopefully...
>         > --le
>         > 
>         > ----- Original Message ----- 
>         > From: "Stephen S. Disbrow" <info@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>         > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:30 PM
>         > Subject: Re: lynix question:
>         > 
>         > 
>         > Hi,
>         >     Usually you need to hit an F key while booting to get to such
>         > partitions. I have a couple of IBM Think Centers, and that's what 
> you need
>         > to do to reload the system from scratch. I just don't rememberwhat 
> the F key
>         > is now for them, but your's is probably different anyway.
>         > 
>         > Steve D.
>         > 
>         > ----- Original Message ----- 
>         > From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
>         > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:04 PM
>         > Subject: Re: lynix question:
>         > 
>         > 
>         > > What I was told is that there is a separate partition or section 
> of the
>         > > disk
>         > > where the recovery software is located. Running this will 
> reinitialize
>         > > everything back to its original state -- zapping all data files 
> in the
>         > > process.
>         > > I have already backed up the data so I want to use this "ground 0"
>         > > program.
>         > > I just don't know where to find it or what to look for if I get a
>         > > non-tech-savvy sighted family member to help me.
>         > > Thanx
>         > > --le
>         > >
>         > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>         > > From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         > > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         > > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 7:39 PM
>         > > Subject: Re: lynix question:
>         > >
>         > >
>         > > ok, what I was talking about is my comp, and several others I 
> have seen in
>         > > the recent past have a C: drive and a D: drive set up on the hard 
> drive,
>         > > then the CD/DVD RW drive is the E: drive, and the files that you 
> could use
>         > > for a reformat/reload of the c drive, and for creation of your 
> restore
>         > > disks
>         > > was in that D drive,
>         > >
>         > > now, there was a while that they put the files in the windows 
> folder and
>         > > folks were supposed to make there disks soon after purchase or 
> risk
>         > > loosing
>         > > them, but not knowing your comp, I don't know if this was the 
> case.
>         > >
>         > > sorry I can't assist more,
>         > > inthane
>         > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>         > > From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
>         > > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         > > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:45 PM
>         > > Subject: Re: lynix question:
>         > >
>         > >
>         > >> Inthane, the restore folder no longer exists as I went into 
> system
>         > >> performance and disabled rollbacks. This trashes the database of
>         > >> snapshots
>         > >> and frees up disk space.  After doing this dangerous step i 
> found I only
>         > >> gained 4gb of free space.  *sigh*
>         > >> What I want is to find that sector where the recovery files are 
> loaded
>         > >> and
>         > >> reinitialize the system to its basic state.
>         > >> Alas, this will require a sightling present.
>         > >> As for the d drive, that only helps if I have a cd to put in it, 
> which I
>         > >> don't.
>         > >> Happy hacking.
>         > >> --le
>         > >>
>         > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>         > >> From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         > >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         > >> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:36 PM
>         > >> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>         > >>
>         > >>
>         > >> Laura,
>         > >>
>         > >> 1. usually the drivers are available, either in a folder on the 
> C drive
>         > >> along with restore files, or more usually now a days, on a D 
> drive of the
>         > >> comp.
>         > >> 2. no turning off that feature does not ka bosh the reloading
>         > >> capabilities.
>         > >> 3. usually there is an item in the start  menu, often in the 
> system tools
>         > >> folder that may look like a second "system restore", and at 
> least on my
>         > >> comp, the names almost the same, system reset, which included an
>         > >> application
>         > >> to create my restore disks, one to load/reload the drivers and 
> certain
>         > >> programs like Norton and MacAfee anti-spyware, and a third for a 
> total
>         > >> wipe
>         > >> and reload of the system with options to "try to save" data and 
> do the
>         > >> deed,
>         > >> or just "wipe everything and reload".
>         > >>
>         > >> 4. you should be able to get your drivers off the manufactures 
> website as
>         > >> well, I know I can, and have done so for others.
>         > >> 5. I am fairly sure that the drivers are quite different, since 
> I have
>         > >> seen
>         > >> driver packages for Linux along with the windows ones on sites 
> for video
>         > >> cards and the like, but I don't think they will be included with 
> the
>         > >> restore
>         > >> set.
>         > >>
>         > >> HTH,
>         > >> inthane
>         > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>         > >> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
>         > >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         > >> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:36 PM
>         > >> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>         > >>
>         > >>
>         > >>> Hello -- while we're on the subject of linux --
>         > >>> I've never installed linux, but would like to do so on an old 
> laptop.
>         > >>> However I don't know the drivers I need or where or how to find 
> out.
>         > >>> Windows xp is on it how, but it is in a fractured state in 
> which jaws
>         > >>> can't
>         > >>> work as something has zapped the video driver, and I don't know 
> where to
>         > >>> find this driver on the net. (It's a long story -- don't ask 
> *frowny*).
>         > >>> I
>         > >>> can't roll back the OS because that has been disabled in order 
> to free
>         > >>> up
>         > >>> space on the disk.
>         > >>>
>         > >>> Does anyone know how to find out what driver I need? Are the 
> drivers the
>         > >>> same in windows as they are in linux? (I doubt it, but I am not 
> a driver
>         > >>> guru.)
>         > >>> If linux drivers are different, where can I find them?
>         > >>> This laptop did not come with recovery CDs, so I assume there 
> is a
>         > >>> segment
>         > >>> reserved on disk to put it back in its initial state, right? 
> Has anyone
>         > >>> ever
>         > >>> done this?  I know it would require sighted assistance, but I am
>         > >>> wondering
>         > >>> if the fact that I disabled rollbacks might have zapped this 
> feature as
>         > >>> well. Does anyone know?
>         > >>>
>         > >>> If anyone has any answers I would love to hear them!
>         > >>> TIA
>         > >>> --le
>         > >>>
>         > >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>         > >>> From: "Nimer" <nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx>
>         > >>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         > >>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:17 PM
>         > >>> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>         > >>>
>         > >>>
>         > >>> The beta is workable, and I recommend that you use the desktop 
> version.
>         > >>> It has an accessible installer.
>         > >>> Thanks
>         > >>> Nimer J
>         > >>>
>         > >>> Nimer M. Jaber
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>         > >>>
>         > >>> Charles E. Black wrote:
>         > >>>> Will I need visual assistance to install it?  Is there a way 
> to load
>         > >>>> Lynix
>         > >>>> using speech?  Thanks!
>         > >>>>
>         > >>>>  Charles E. Black
>         > >>>> 4127 Pinehaven Ct.
>         > >>>> Columbia, SC  29205
>         > >>>> Phone:  (803) 790-5586
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>         > >>>>
>         > >>>> -----Original Message-----
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>         > >>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
> Chris
>         > >>>> Hallsworth
>         > >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:10 PM
>         > >>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>         > >>>> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>         > >>>>
>         > >>>> All of these, Ubuntu will answer your questions. It has both a 
> console
>         > >>>> and
>         > >>>> a
>         > >>>>
>         > >>>> GUI interface. You can get it, free, from www.ubuntu.com.
>         > >>>>
>         > >>>> --
>         > >>>> Chris Hallsworth
>         > >>>> e-mail: christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>         > >>>> msn: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
>         > >>>> skype: chrishallsworth7266
>         > >>>> klango: chrishallsworth
>         > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>         > >>>> From: "Charles E. Black" <charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx>
>         > >>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         > >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 3:21 PM
>         > >>>> Subject: lynix question:
>         > >>>>
>         > >>>>
>         > >>>>
>         > >>>>> Hello:
>         > >>>>>
>         > >>>>> Is anyone aware of a lynix system that does the following:
>         > >>>>>
>         > >>>>> 1.  has an built in speech engine?
>         > >>>>> 2.  Can run through a computers speech card?
>         > >>>>> 3.  What type of interface does it have, (console or gui)?
>         > >>>>> 4.  What is it called?
>         > >>>>> 5.  Where can I obtain it?
>         > >>>>> 6.  How much will it cost?
>         > >>>>>
>         > >>>>> Thanks for any help.
>         > >>>>>
>         > >>>>> Charles E. Black
>         > >>>>> 4127 Pinehaven Ct.
>         > >>>>> Columbia, SC  29205
>         > >>>>> Phone:  (803) 790-5586
>         > >>>>> Cell:   (803) 201-0499
>         > >>>>> Email:  charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx
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