Re: lynix question:

  • From: BlueScale <bluescale1976@xxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:03:40 -0400

Hi,
So, if I followed this thread correctly, you don't have a cd drive to
run a recovery disk or boot a live Linux CD.  Your computer may or may
not have a recovery system that works, and Jaws won't work on it...
REmember, when going up the creek it is always best to bring a pattle.
*grin*  Well, I cdan't help much with the Windows or Jaws stuff, but
here's something that should get you up and running in Linux.  Ubuntu
specifically.  First, though, if you want a screen reader to help you
through the installation, you can get NVDA from:
http://www.nvda-project.org/
It's free, so no need to worry about having to sell internal organs to
get a copy.  After that, if you still want to try out Linux, there's a
program called Wubi that allows LUbuntu to be installed in Windows.
Even though it is installed as a Windows program, it is still Ubuntu,
you have to restart and press down arrow once to get to it.  The
installer downloads the packages you need and installs them.  You will
need about 10GB of disk space you can of course give it more space if
you want.  Here's the link for the Wubi page:
http://wubi-installer.org/
It's no more difficult than installing a normal program so you don't
have to be too tech savvy to get it up and running.  After trying it
briefly, my whole family has switched exclusively to Ubuntu.

On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 21:39 -0500, tribble wrote:

> I know, it is F8, but where to go from there is what I don't know. It 
> requires sight, and I have no tech savvy members of my family present.
> But I'm sure we can figure it out...
> Hopefully...
> --le
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stephen S. Disbrow" <info@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:30 PM
> Subject: Re: lynix question:
> 
> 
> Hi,
>     Usually you need to hit an F key while booting to get to such
> partitions. I have a couple of IBM Think Centers, and that's what you need
> to do to reload the system from scratch. I just don't rememberwhat the F key
> is now for them, but your's is probably different anyway.
> 
> Steve D.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:04 PM
> Subject: Re: lynix question:
> 
> 
> > What I was told is that there is a separate partition or section of the
> > disk
> > where the recovery software is located. Running this will reinitialize
> > everything back to its original state -- zapping all data files in the
> > process.
> > I have already backed up the data so I want to use this "ground 0"
> > program.
> > I just don't know where to find it or what to look for if I get a
> > non-tech-savvy sighted family member to help me.
> > Thanx
> > --le
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 7:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: lynix question:
> >
> >
> > ok, what I was talking about is my comp, and several others I have seen in
> > the recent past have a C: drive and a D: drive set up on the hard drive,
> > then the CD/DVD RW drive is the E: drive, and the files that you could use
> > for a reformat/reload of the c drive, and for creation of your restore
> > disks
> > was in that D drive,
> >
> > now, there was a while that they put the files in the windows folder and
> > folks were supposed to make there disks soon after purchase or risk
> > loosing
> > them, but not knowing your comp, I don't know if this was the case.
> >
> > sorry I can't assist more,
> > inthane
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: lynix question:
> >
> >
> >> Inthane, the restore folder no longer exists as I went into system
> >> performance and disabled rollbacks. This trashes the database of
> >> snapshots
> >> and frees up disk space.  After doing this dangerous step i found I only
> >> gained 4gb of free space.  *sigh*
> >> What I want is to find that sector where the recovery files are loaded
> >> and
> >> reinitialize the system to its basic state.
> >> Alas, this will require a sightling present.
> >> As for the d drive, that only helps if I have a cd to put in it, which I
> >> don't.
> >> Happy hacking.
> >> --le
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:36 PM
> >> Subject: Re: lynix question:
> >>
> >>
> >> Laura,
> >>
> >> 1. usually the drivers are available, either in a folder on the C drive
> >> along with restore files, or more usually now a days, on a D drive of the
> >> comp.
> >> 2. no turning off that feature does not ka bosh the reloading
> >> capabilities.
> >> 3. usually there is an item in the start  menu, often in the system tools
> >> folder that may look like a second "system restore", and at least on my
> >> comp, the names almost the same, system reset, which included an
> >> application
> >> to create my restore disks, one to load/reload the drivers and certain
> >> programs like Norton and MacAfee anti-spyware, and a third for a total
> >> wipe
> >> and reload of the system with options to "try to save" data and do the
> >> deed,
> >> or just "wipe everything and reload".
> >>
> >> 4. you should be able to get your drivers off the manufactures website as
> >> well, I know I can, and have done so for others.
> >> 5. I am fairly sure that the drivers are quite different, since I have
> >> seen
> >> driver packages for Linux along with the windows ones on sites for video
> >> cards and the like, but I don't think they will be included with the
> >> restore
> >> set.
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >> inthane
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:36 PM
> >> Subject: Re: lynix question:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hello -- while we're on the subject of linux --
> >>> I've never installed linux, but would like to do so on an old laptop.
> >>> However I don't know the drivers I need or where or how to find out.
> >>> Windows xp is on it how, but it is in a fractured state in which jaws
> >>> can't
> >>> work as something has zapped the video driver, and I don't know where to
> >>> find this driver on the net. (It's a long story -- don't ask *frowny*).
> >>> I
> >>> can't roll back the OS because that has been disabled in order to free
> >>> up
> >>> space on the disk.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone know how to find out what driver I need? Are the drivers the
> >>> same in windows as they are in linux? (I doubt it, but I am not a driver
> >>> guru.)
> >>> If linux drivers are different, where can I find them?
> >>> This laptop did not come with recovery CDs, so I assume there is a
> >>> segment
> >>> reserved on disk to put it back in its initial state, right? Has anyone
> >>> ever
> >>> done this?  I know it would require sighted assistance, but I am
> >>> wondering
> >>> if the fact that I disabled rollbacks might have zapped this feature as
> >>> well. Does anyone know?
> >>>
> >>> If anyone has any answers I would love to hear them!
> >>> TIA
> >>> --le
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: "Nimer" <nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:17 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: lynix question:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The beta is workable, and I recommend that you use the desktop version.
> >>> It has an accessible installer.
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Nimer J
> >>>
> >>> Nimer M. Jaber
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> >>> Charles E. Black wrote:
> >>>> Will I need visual assistance to install it?  Is there a way to load
> >>>> Lynix
> >>>> using speech?  Thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>>  Charles E. Black
> >>>> 4127 Pinehaven Ct.
> >>>> Columbia, SC  29205
> >>>> Phone:  (803) 790-5586
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> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris
> >>>> Hallsworth
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:10 PM
> >>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: Re: lynix question:
> >>>>
> >>>> All of these, Ubuntu will answer your questions. It has both a console
> >>>> and
> >>>> a
> >>>>
> >>>> GUI interface. You can get it, free, from www.ubuntu.com.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Chris Hallsworth
> >>>> e-mail: christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> msn: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> skype: chrishallsworth7266
> >>>> klango: chrishallsworth
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>> From: "Charles E. Black" <charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 3:21 PM
> >>>> Subject: lynix question:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is anyone aware of a lynix system that does the following:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1.  has an built in speech engine?
> >>>>> 2.  Can run through a computers speech card?
> >>>>> 3.  What type of interface does it have, (console or gui)?
> >>>>> 4.  What is it called?
> >>>>> 5.  Where can I obtain it?
> >>>>> 6.  How much will it cost?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for any help.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Charles E. Black
> >>>>> 4127 Pinehaven Ct.
> >>>>> Columbia, SC  29205
> >>>>> Phone:  (803) 790-5586
> >>>>> Cell:   (803) 201-0499
> >>>>> Email:  charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>
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