Re: accessibility calls, but some questions from the mods of the forum in which they are being made

  • From: Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:52:51 -0700

Katherine, specifically, what problems are u havin w/malwarebytes?

U know, it's written in that typical bloody Visual Basic thunder this
& that. But it's not terrible to access.

On 8/30/10, Katherine moss <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thanks.  MBAM is definitely both free and paid depending on which features
> you want.  I have the free version currently, and I'm thinking about
> upgrading.  It's a great piece of software, but I just think that they could
> work on their controls a little bit, but I also understand if they don't
> want automation of their product.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:03 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: accessibility calls, but some questions from the mods of the
> forum in which they are being made
>
> The software in question is free right?  Not open source, of course
> else this would be a moot point.  If the software is free as in beer,
> there's not a whole lot you can say other than that the likelihood of
> the software being used by government institutions is going to be
> smaller in proportion to its accessibility.  You could always have a
> bunch of people full up the mod's inbox with complaints on the subject
> so he doesn't think that it's something only a few people care about.
> If this software is not free, however, here is what I've done in the
> past:
>
> 1.  Point out that the more people the software can reach the more
> people are likely to buy it.
> 2.  Really sell the government and federal contract idea.  If they
> ever want to land any big contract, their product will have to be
> accessible.
> 3.  You could also let them know about the costs in time and money of
> having to scramble to rework a product and make it accessible after
> the fact if they find they need to do it later because a competitor
> has stolen a march on them in this respect.  Better to get it done
> right from the beginning.
>
>
> They still may not listen to you.  Some people just don't care.  It's
> a sad truth but that's the way it is.  They figure that they are not
> going to get anyone else interested in using that feature so, why
> bother implementing it whe the vast majority of people won't need it.
> If this is the case, you can always be as rude as you have always
> wanted to be and walk out.  Just kidding.  Walking out is still an
> option but you don't want to be needlessly rude and turn quiet
> bystanders against you and the cause of accessibility by exhibiting
> poor behavior.  But, hey, none of what I'm saying is new.  Good luck.
>
> Alex M
>
> On 8/29/10, Littlefield, Tyler <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> It makes sense, though poking at the messages isn't to hard to do.
>> Either they will or they won't make them more accessible--trouble's
> comment
>> (what I could pick out of the grammar issues) sort of makes sense, though
>> I'd think it's more the automation that's the issue currently.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Katherine moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 8:54 PM
>> Subject: RE: accessibility calls, but some questions from the mods of the
>> forum in which they are being made
>>
>>
>>> So now what can I say to get them to listen to me?  Somebody else on here
>>> had the theory that MBAM is keeping their controls custom so that the
>>> program can't be automated by scripting languages like AutoIt and
>>> VBScript.
>>> Even my friend thought that mod was a little nuts.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trouble
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 10:49 AM
>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: accessibility calls, but some questions from the mods of the
>>> forum in which they are being made
>>>
>>> it only means that some of there custom controls wouldn't look so
>>> pretty behind the scenes, and may make some above board look a bit
>>> different. But as far as making the code easier to break for malware?
>>> not at all.
>>> Some coders out there think of the standard code as plane Jane code
>>> or boring code. The more complicated they make the cooler they think
>>> others think of them. Kind of like a guru of code or something like that.
>>> Sure using basic code here and there ain't pretty under the hood, but
>>> it still works just as fine and is easy to read when need too.
>>>
>>> At 10:23 PM 8/28/2010, you wrote:
>>>>Hey folks,
>>>>I am currently discussing the topic of accessibility with the
>>>>moderators of the Bleeping Computer forum.  I made the coment that I
>>>>don't find MalwareBites anti-Malware as accessible as it could be
>>>>and suggesting that they talk to the developers about it and ask
>>>>them to possibly think about making the controls more
>>>>standardized.  One particular mod had the question of whether using
>>>>standard windows controls versus custom ones would cause the staff
>>>>at MBAM to have to do extra work to protect the program from
>>>>malware.  Does using windows controls equal a malware attack
>>>>vector?  I'm currently learning to program in C#, and the book I'm
>>>>reading says nothing about that.  Some input, explanation?  Many thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Katherine
>>>>
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