RE: +[SurvPC] MS-Windows Vista No Longer Matters (fwd)


Hate to tell  you but unless your using 64 bit vista your only using up to 3
gb ram.  Yes it shows 4 gb but it only access 3.  You need 64 bit and all
but the free screen readers don't support that yet.

Ken 

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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pfingstl,
Alexander
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:14 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: AW: +[SurvPC] MS-Windows Vista No Longer Matters (fwd)

The only advantage for Vista is, that you can us 4GB RAM and not only 3 or
3,5.
For those who use many applications at a time, this could be a reason to
upgrade.

Alexander

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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Octavian
Rasnita
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Oktober 2008 07:27
An: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: Re: +[SurvPC] MS-Windows Vista No Longer Matters (fwd)

And in this case, why upgrading to Vista? Just because it might have a nicer
interface for the sighted which is completely unuseful for me?

As I said, I will upgrade only if MS will stop supporting XP, because the
security updates are really important.

Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:55 PM
Subject: Re: +[SurvPC] MS-Windows Vista No Longer Matters (fwd)


> try to answer your self at this question, where you've seen ever a 
> newer windows consuming less sresources than previous versions?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:26 PM
> Subject: Re: +[SurvPC] MS-Windows Vista No Longer Matters (fwd)
>
>
>> Does that version consume less resources than Win XP?
>>
>> Octavian
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: +[SurvPC] MS-Windows Vista No Longer Matters (fwd)
>>
>>
>>> for the vista there is a better alternative named windows server 
>>> 2008 which is vista with out content protection and for this reason 
>>> working with 18% better than vista.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:58 PM
>>> Subject: Re: +[SurvPC] MS-Windows Vista No Longer Matters (fwd)
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well I guess those millions of users of Vista are those who use a 
>>>> cracked version, and that's why their number doesn't show anywhere. 
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> I think I will never use Vista. Or just like XP, I will use it, if 
>>>> the next version of Windows will consume more resources than Vista 
>>>> and MS won't support XP.
>>>>
>>>> Octavian
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <blind-windows@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 
>>>> "bprogramming" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Science, 
>>>> Technology, Mathematics, SCI-FI, and more." 
>>>> <sci-tech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:40 PM
>>>> Subject: Fw: +[SurvPC] MS-Windows Vista No Longer Matters (fwd)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hey all -- What is your take on the following?
>>>>> --le
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:01:21 -0800
>>>>> From: John Oram <norami@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Reply-To: LifeRaft <survpc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: LifeRaft <survpc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: +[SurvPC] MS-Windows Vista No Longer Matters
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/vista/windows_vista_no_long
>>>>> er_matters.html
>>>>>
>>>>> October 26, 2008 7:15 PM
>>>>> Windows Vista No Longer Matters
>>>>>
>>>>> News Commentary. Did it ever?
>>>>>
>>>>> Make no mistake: Microsoft has moved beyond Windows Vista, which 
>>>>> will become all too apparent during this week's Professional 
>>>>> Developer Conference.
>>>>> Windows
>>>>> 7 is the future, and in many ways it's the present, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Contrary to ridiculous assertions recently made by Microsoft CEO 
>>>>> Steve Ballmer, Windows Vista is a flop. If businesses aren't 
>>>>> buying Vista, after waiting six (now seven) years, it's no 
>>>>> success. Yet, during the last day of the Gartner
>>>>> 2008 expo 10 days ago, Steve asserted that Vista "has been 
>>>>> extremely successful."
>>>>>
>>>>> A few days earlier, Steve boasted: "Vista is our best-selling 
>>>>> product ever.
>>>>> So,
>>>>> if that takes too much getting over-we're not going to have 
>>>>> products that are much more successful than Vista has been. We 
>>>>> sold over 180 million copies in the first 18 months, quite 
>>>>> successful." Really?
>>>>>
>>>>> But who's buying this "best-selling" product ever? "We have 180 
>>>>> million users, mostly on the consumer market," Steve said in an 
>>>>> Oct. 2 speech. Oh?
>>>>> According
>>>>> to Gartner analysts Neil MacDonald and David Smith, only about 10 
>>>>> percent of enterprises have adopted Windows Vista. That's not a 
>>>>> high number, particularly in context of the approximately six 
>>>>> years between Windows XP and Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not surprising then that PDC attendees will hear whole lots 
>>>>> about Windows
>>>>> 7 this week and very little about its predecessor. Windows 7 
>>>>> banners are plentiful enough, as are the sessions: Out of 194, 22 
>>>>> are dedicated to Seven and none to Windows Vista. It has leprosy, 
>>>>> baby, and nobody wants to catch it.
>>>>> I Googled "PDC 2008," and one of the pages-not now available-is 
>>>>> "Unveiling Windows 7 to the World."
>>>>>
>>>>> Vista is headed to as quick a death as Microsoft can give it. 
>>>>> Someday soon, some gun-toting Microsoft executive will lead Vista 
>>>>> out back and "Pop!"
>>>>> Netbook
>>>>> buying trends and the sagging economy give Microsoft more reasons 
>>>>> to want to off Vista as soon as humanly possible. The signs are 
>>>>> everywhere:
>>>>> The vanishing license count. Every quarterly earnings since 
>>>>> Vista's release, Microsoft executives counted up the number of 
>>>>> licenses shipped. There was near silence during last week's 2009 
>>>>> fiscal first-quarter earnings announcement.
>>>>> The
>>>>> number was 180 million three months earlier. It's now "What?"
>>>>> Microsoft's
>>>>> failure to toot "the number of Vista licenses" horn means something.
>>>>> Maybe
>>>>> the
>>>>> increase wasn't that great, or maybe Microsoft is moving beyond Vista.
>>>>> I say
>>>>> yes to both.
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows client income down. During the fiscal first quarter, the 
>>>>> division's revenue grew a paltry 2 percent year over year, but 
>>>>> income decreased by
>>>>> 4
>>>>> percent. Microsoft has no tough year-ago comparison to account for 
>>>>> the weak results. By comparison, Business division revenue and 
>>>>> income were up 20 percent and 23 percent, respectively. Microsoft 
>>>>> attributed year-over-year Windows client income declines to sales 
>>>>> of lower-cost versions in emerging markets and on netbooks in 
>>>>> mature markets. Considering that PC shipment growth was still 
>>>>> strong during the quarter, Windows results forebodes Vista weakness.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Increasing netbook sales. The product category is pure trouble for 
>>>>> Microsoft because Windows Vista demands too much to adequately run 
>>>>> on the hardware. So netbooks typically either ship with Linux or 
>>>>> Windows XP Home. That netbook buyers would be satisfied with 
>>>>> 7-year-old consumer XP is just about the only commentary necessary 
>>>>> to understand Vista's market plight. According to Microsoft, 
>>>>> netbooks added 8 percent growth to otherwise flat U.S. PC sales 
>>>>> during the third calendar quarter. The category is hot, but Vista 
>>>>> is not and couldn't be. Seven had better run well on netbooks and 
>>>>> soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Windows. Life Without Walls." The marketing campaign should be 
>>>>> called "Windows. Life Without Vista." If Vista is so successful, 
>>>>> as Steve claims, then why isn't Microsoft advertising the 
>>>>> software? Rather, Microsoft is trying to get away from Vista, 
>>>>> abandoning a brand that it already invested tens of millions of 
>>>>> dollars promoting. Its absent role at PDC says it all.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There are plenty of other signs:
>>>>> Continued OEM sales of XP downgrade licenses
>>>>>
>>>>> The aforementioned 10 percent enterprise adoption
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Apple's Mac market share gains (35 percent in U.S. retail revenue)
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft is moving beyond Vista to Windows 7. Windows Vista no 
>>>>> longer matters.
>>>>> If it did:
>>>>> Enterprises would be buying it
>>>>>
>>>>> Consumers would be demanding it
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft wouldn't freak out about Apple's "Get a Mac" ads
>>>>>
>>>>> The hottest new computer category, netbooks, would ship with Vista
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft would be aggressively advertising Vista, instead of 
>>>>> trying to bury the brand
>>>>>
>>>>> Developers would be creating hunky Vista apps; instead, projects 
>>>>> like Yahoo Messenger for Windows Vista are being abandoned
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've long said that Windows Vista isn't a bad operating system. 
>>>>> It's just not particularly better than Windows XP. Strange, then, 
>>>>> that Microsoft isn't messaging Seven as being particularly better 
>>>>> than Windows Vista. It won't be.
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft believes, with some justification, that Vista has major 
>>>>> perception problems. The company clearly has decided that negative 
>>>>> perceptions can't be fixed. Hence, the diminished emphasis on 
>>>>> Vista; starting tomorrow-and especially on Tuesday-an increased 
>>>>> emphasis on Windows 7. By shifting emphasis to Seven, Microsoft is 
>>>>> treating Vista perceptions mainly as a marketing problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vista deserved better market reception than it got. Strange, a few 
>>>>> small improvements could have changed everything-like startup 
>>>>> times.
>>>>> Everybody
>>>>> bitches about how long Vista takes to boot up or wake up from sleep.
>>>>> Last
>>>>> week,
>>>>> one of my longtime Windows buddies bought a MacBook. Yesterday we 
>>>>> talked about startup times. He surprised me. He had already 
>>>>> clocked startup times: 7 minutes on his Vista notebook and about a 
>>>>> minute for the $1,299 MacBook. That's not scientific, but it 
>>>>> needn't be. One user, one experience multiplied by 180 million 
>>>>> Vista licenses is scientific enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> [Please send your tips or rumors to watchtips at gmail.com].
>>>>>
>>>>> Posted by Joe Wilcox on October 26, 2008 7:15 PM
>>>>>
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