Well, I use Jaws 6, because the newer versions have issues, and this version of Jaws didn't want to work with the latest driver for my video card. The solution was to install a previous version of the driver for the same video card, and Jaws works very well with it.
So there are solutions sometimes. (But I hope I won't need to change very soon the hardware I use now.) Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:02 PM Subject: Re: +[SurvPC] MS-Windows Vista No Longer Matters (fwd)
for example because the pc vendors force you to do this? How? By not providing to their new components xp drivers.----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:27 AM Subject: Re: +[SurvPC] MS-Windows Vista No Longer Matters (fwd)And in this case, why upgrading to Vista? Just because it might have a nicer interface for the sighted which is completely unuseful for me?As I said, I will upgrade only if MS will stop supporting XP, because the security updates are really important.Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:55 PM Subject: Re: +[SurvPC] MS-Windows Vista No Longer Matters (fwd)try to answer your self at this question, where you've seen ever a newer windows consuming less sresources than previous versions?----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:26 PM Subject: Re: +[SurvPC] MS-Windows Vista No Longer Matters (fwd)Does that version consume less resources than Win XP? Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:45 PM Subject: Re: +[SurvPC] MS-Windows Vista No Longer Matters (fwd)for the vista there is a better alternative named windows server 2008 which is vista with out content protection and for this reason working with 18% better than vista.----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:58 PM Subject: Re: +[SurvPC] MS-Windows Vista No Longer Matters (fwd)Well I guess those millions of users of Vista are those who use acracked version, and that's why their number doesn't show anywhere. :-)I think I will never use Vista. Or just like XP, I will use it, if the next version of Windows will consume more resources than Vista and MS won't support XP. Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>To: <blind-windows@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "bprogramming" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Science, Technology, Mathematics, SCI-FI, and more." <sci-tech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:40 PM Subject: Fw: +[SurvPC] MS-Windows Vista No Longer Matters (fwd)Hey all -- What is your take on the following? --le----- Original Message --------------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:01:21 -0800 From: John Oram <norami@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: LifeRaft <survpc@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: LifeRaft <survpc@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: +[SurvPC] MS-Windows Vista No Longer Matters http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/vista/windows_vista_no_longer_matters.html October 26, 2008 7:15 PM Windows Vista No Longer Matters News Commentary. Did it ever? Make no mistake: Microsoft has moved beyond Windows Vista, which will becomeall too apparent during this week's Professional Developer Conference.Windows 7 is the future, and in many ways it's the present, too.Contrary to ridiculous assertions recently made by Microsoft CEO SteveBallmer, Windows Vista is a flop. If businesses aren't buying Vista, after waiting six (now seven) years, it's no success. Yet, during the last day of the Gartner 2008 expo 10 days ago, Steve asserted that Vista "has been extremely successful." A few days earlier, Steve boasted: "Vista is our best-selling product ever. So, if that takes too much getting over—we're not going to have products that are much more successful than Vista has been. We sold over 180 million copies in the first 18 months, quite successful." Really?But who's buying this "best-selling" product ever? "We have 180 millionusers, mostly on the consumer market," Steve said in an Oct. 2 speech. Oh? According to Gartner analysts Neil MacDonald and David Smith, only about 10 percent of enterprises have adopted Windows Vista. That's not a high number, particularlyin context of the approximately six years between Windows XP and Vista.It's not surprising then that PDC attendees will hear whole lots aboutWindows 7 this week and very little about its predecessor. Windows 7 banners areplentiful enough, as are the sessions: Out of 194, 22 are dedicated toSeven and none to Windows Vista. It has leprosy, baby, and nobody wants to catch it. I Googled "PDC 2008," and one of the pages—not now available—is "Unveiling Windows 7 to the World." Vista is headed to as quick a death as Microsoft can give it. Someday soon,some gun-toting Microsoft executive will lead Vista out back and "Pop!"Netbook buying trends and the sagging economy give Microsoft more reasons to want to off Vista as soon as humanly possible. The signs are everywhere: The vanishing license count. Every quarterly earnings since Vista's release, Microsoft executives counted up the number of licenses shipped. There was near silence during last week's 2009 fiscal first-quarter earnings announcement. The number was 180 million three months earlier. It's now "What?" Microsoft's failure to toot "the number of Vista licenses" horn means something. Maybe theincrease wasn't that great, or maybe Microsoft is moving beyond Vista.I say yes to both. Windows client income down. During the fiscal first quarter, the division'srevenue grew a paltry 2 percent year over year, but income decreased by4percent. Microsoft has no tough year-ago comparison to account for theweakresults. By comparison, Business division revenue and income were up 20percent and 23 percent, respectively. Microsoft attributed year-over-year Windows client income declines to sales of lower-cost versions in emerging markets andon netbooks in mature markets. Considering that PC shipment growth wasstill strong during the quarter, Windows results forebodes Vista weakness. Increasing netbook sales. The product category is pure trouble for Microsoft because Windows Vista demands too much to adequately run on the hardware. So netbooks typically either ship with Linux or Windows XP Home. That netbookbuyers would be satisfied with 7-year-old consumer XP is just about theonlycommentary necessary to understand Vista's market plight. According toMicrosoft, netbooks added 8 percent growth to otherwise flat U.S. PC sales during the third calendar quarter. The category is hot, but Vista is not and couldn't be. Seven had better run well on netbooks and soon."Windows. Life Without Walls." The marketing campaign should be called"Windows. Life Without Vista." If Vista is so successful, as Steve claims, then why isn't Microsoft advertising the software? Rather, Microsoft is trying to get away from Vista, abandoning a brand that it already invested tens of millions of dollars promoting. Its absent role at PDC says it all. There are plenty of other signs: Continued OEM sales of XP downgrade licenses The aforementioned 10 percent enterprise adoption Apple's Mac market share gains (35 percent in U.S. retail revenue)Microsoft is moving beyond Vista to Windows 7. Windows Vista no longermatters. If it did: Enterprises would be buying it Consumers would be demanding it Microsoft wouldn't freak out about Apple's "Get a Mac" ads The hottest new computer category, netbooks, would ship with VistaMicrosoft would be aggressively advertising Vista, instead of trying tobury the brand Developers would be creating hunky Vista apps; instead, projects like Yahoo Messenger for Windows Vista are being abandoned I've long said that Windows Vista isn't a bad operating system. It's just not particularly better than Windows XP. Strange, then, that Microsoft isn't messaging Seven as being particularly better than Windows Vista. It won't be. Microsoft believes, with some justification, that Vista has major perception problems. The company clearly has decided that negative perceptions can't be fixed. Hence, the diminished emphasis on Vista; starting tomorrow—and especially on Tuesday—an increased emphasis on Windows 7. By shifting emphasisto Seven, Microsoft is treating Vista perceptions mainly as a marketingproblem. Vista deserved better market reception than it got. Strange, a few small improvements could have changed everything—like startup times. Everybody bitches about how long Vista takes to boot up or wake up from sleep. Last week, one of my longtime Windows buddies bought a MacBook. Yesterday we talked aboutstartup times. He surprised me. He had already clocked startup times: 7minuteson his Vista notebook and about a minute for the $1,299 MacBook. That'snot scientific, but it needn't be. One user, one experience multiplied by 180 million Vista licenses is scientific enough. [Please send your tips or rumors to watchtips at gmail.com]. Posted by Joe Wilcox on October 26, 2008 7:15 PM __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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