It sounds excellent. This project is going to open up doors for visually impaired people to become programmers like no tool before it.
BTW, I suppose the latest SodBeans is on Source Forge?Suppose you already know Java, could you use SodBeans to code Java in addition to HOP? How about other languages?
Having recently started using Braille with a computer, does SodBeans offer any special support for Braille displays and Braille in general?
Very exciting that it would be possible to produce jar files with HOP some time in future!
Last comment / question. I know people complain a lot about the difficulty of using a modal text editor like vi or vim and I fully agree that it's a steep learning curve, but I must say, once you have the hang of it, even just the basic movement commands, bookmarks in code and jumps then you can edit complex and large code files very easily. I also suspect that RSI is less likely with heavy vim-ing since you generally don't have to use more than one key press at a time, unlike emacs *I believe. Some things require holding down one key but it is the minimal odd case only. OK now my question; is there any current or planned modal text editing support planned for the SodBeans editor code editor window?
Regards On 4/12/2011 4:47 AM, Andreas Stefik wrote:
Kerneels, Ha, thanks. We have lots of new stuff we're adding in. I think the audio feature I like the most is the new Sodbeans error conditions. In Hop now (internally), if you throw an exception, Sodbeans will say something akin to, "Dude, seriously, you threw a divide by zero error. Press the back button and you'll hear why." Ok, so not exactly that, but it tells you what happened and why in plain English. The new auditory brace matchers are nice too. Oh, and we're getting much better at using prosody, like pitch shifts and things, to represent various aspects of the code. Oh, and we're slowly replacing all of the default key combinations in NetBeans so that instead of saying what key you pressed it says what NetBeans actually did, like copy something to the clipboard or saving a file, or whatever. We're also releasing our text-to-speech engine and Hop separately from Sodbeans this release, we think, so that folks that want to try our language/tools, whatever, don't have to actually use Sodbeans to do it. Or, at least, that's the plan, if we can get it all done. And we think that we may have Hop outputting Java Jar files by the 2.5 or 3.0 release, so that folks can build libraries in Hop directly and then load them into other apps or whatever they want to do with it, including full screen reader support and all that. So, I don't know, maybe I'm silly, but I'm really excited about the direction things are going in. There's a long way to go, but we're making progress. Stefik On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Ken Perry<whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Ha I don't know I have heard some of the best coders and their interviews scare me. Voices a mother or a vampire would love and all. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 8:05 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Homme, James Subject: Re: Searching for blind programmer to start a school for blind programmers With respect to blind programmer stories, I suggest that podcasts of audio interviews, e.g., recorded via phone or Skype, would generally work better than expecting people to submit written, biographical essays. I think more submissions would be obtained via interviews. Also, the audience could get a better sense of the interviewee by hearing the speech of the person. Jamal __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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