LOL, it's just roughly, what, 25X the cost of a bluetooth keyboard. I'd love one though, don't get me wrong.
On 07/30/2010 08:02 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
I am sorry you are addicted to that thing called Face book but one thing I like to use is APH rb 18 instead of a blue tooth keyboard because i get Braille output and key input all in a packet the size of half a vcr tape it fits fine in my man purse and It connects like a rocket. If you want to hear more about it it was on Main menu tonight one of the users made a you tube video of using RB 18 and the IPhone together so they interviewed him. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jay Macarty Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 6:54 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible? While I think the touch keyboard on iOS 4 is somewhat better, I still had to resort to getting the blueTooth keyboard to really feel comfortable with things like facebook. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry"<whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 5:23 PM Subject: RE: Is Android Programming Accessible?See I have had an IPhone since the day it was accessible and as soon as there is a good android phone that has a keyboard and froyo default I am going to see if I can skip my IPhone across the Ohio. I know several of my friends that say Oh I can text just fine on my Iphone and my ITouch then I sit and watch them. It's like watching a blind mouse hunt for cheese in a room full of mouse traps. I can text on my IPhone and but I don't do it even 1/4 as much as I did on my nokia because it is ugly and painful. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Wright Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 6:07 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible? I guess I don't really want to be restritcted to the devices with keyboards. The iPhone's onscreen keyboard is usable if, as everyone has to, you practice it a bit. Do you know if the situation on Android is anywhere near that? Would the Droid X, for instance, be a viable choice for the Android functionality you've described, presuming Version 2.2 could be gotten onto it? On 07/30/2010 01:15 PM, Ken Perry wrote:Yes and the speech input is even unbelievable . You could even talk totheething and text if you want. The one thing I recommend is you wait till there are some new handsets with keyboards. I have an old hand set but it has a keyboard and I have hacked it to have 2.2 on it. I am waiting actually for the Ericson but it won't be out till probably 2011. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Wright Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 12:56 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible? Can it at least manage contacts, texts, and other base phone functions adequately? I have to admit that I'm at this tough crossroads. I can get myself a smartphone right now, and one smartphone only. I feel I have enough knowledge to not just use Android accessibility but to improve on it. That said, I can do all the fun smartphone thingies with the iPhone today, right now, this minute. If I could have an iPhone for today and have an Android to develop on for tomorrow, that'd be ideal. But I haven't those types of funds and am a poor con artist. *smile* If it can at least do what I've hacked together on my present phone though, (that is make and receive calls with caller identification, read call logs, review and edit contact information, and handle SMS), I'd be more likely to just take the plunge with Android and let the apps come. I think they will in the end. Finally, what's the status of touchscreen input on Android? Last I knew it wasn't nearly as easy to accomplish eyes free data input through the touchscreen, and well, QWERTY keyboards on smartphones are going the way of the dodo. On 07/30/2010 12:42 PM, Bill Cox wrote:I wouldn't say it speaks "all" other menus, but it does seem pretty close. There are annoying gaps in some popular applications. The microphone icon on the search bar is not spoken, and neither are other icons on most other widgets. Some desktop widgets are not accessible at all. There's not quite enough of the right kind of information spoken, like what row and column you're on when browsing the desktop. However, the progress is very encouraging, and at some point I suspect blind programmers will get involved and progress will accelerate. What has to happen first is for Android to become the platform of choice for the blind. I think that will happen. Bill On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Alphonso McFadden <techsales2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:So does this mean it speaks all other menue's? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cox"<waywardgeek@xxxxxxxxx> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible? Hi, Bryan. Talkback in Android 2.2 is getting close to usable, but not quite there. The main problem remaining is that the browser and e-mail applications are not accessible, both of which I think use webkit. Work on making it accessible is underway. I think we can count on Google to get it where it needs to be, but I can't estimate the timeline. Bill On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Bryan Schulz<b.schulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:hi, i called a local at&t wireless store and most of what they sell are the android operating system. will mobile speak be created for this system or will there possibly beafree open source app to make these phones talk? i would like to get an unlocked phone with no monthly fee off ebay foralow talk time charge when needed solution. Bryan Schulz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave"<davidct1209@xxxxxxxxx> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 8:22 PM Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible?I'm relatively new to Android land as well, but from what I've done so far, yes, it's accessible depending on your experience. Android comes with a variety of development tools; there's, as you mentioned, a plugin for Eclipse to help streamline the development experience (auto generated project files). However, all of this can be done by hand via the Android SDK using command line tools. One can also specify UI elements within an AndroidManifest xml file. The learning curve isn't too bad as long as you are fairly comfortable with exploring the technology stack (from the tools, to the SDK, to the application concepts such as intents, broadcasts, services, etc. and finally to managing a real device such as flashing, rooting, etc.). Hth. On 7/29/10, David Engebretson Jr.<d.engebretson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:I asked the same question a week back or so and didn't get aresponse.Maybe we'll need to explore it together. try eyesfree.google.com cheers, david David Engebretson Jr., CTO Peace Weaver Hosting Need web hosting? Come visit us at PeaceWeaverHosting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Jaquiss"<rjaquiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 5:13 PM Subject: Is Android Programming Accessible?Hello: I am looking at a possible project that requires programming for an Android based device. Has anyone done this? My research to date indicates that Java is used with the Eclipse IDE and an Android SDK. 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