Bill and others,Have you tried the voice recognition and dictation on an Android phone yet? I hear that Google may have surpassed Naturally Speaking, especially in the area of training. Actually, training is basically not required! Google is taking advantage of tons of real life training on the recognition software by the huge volume of audio to dictate from Google Voice, Goog411, and now Android Google search. Bill I would think this would be of interest to you to some extent.
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Can it at least manage contacts, texts, and other base phone functions adequately? I have to admit that I'm at this tough crossroads. I can get myself a smartphone right now, and one smartphone only. I feel I have enough knowledge to not just use Android accessibility but to improve on it. That said, I can do all the fun smartphone thingies with the iPhone today, right now, this minute. If I could have an iPhone for today and have an Android to develop on for tomorrow, that'd be ideal. But I haven't those types of funds and am a poor con artist. *smile* If it can at least do what I've hacked together on my present phone though, (that is make and receive calls with caller identification, read call logs, review and edit contact information, and handle SMS), I'd be more likely to just take the plunge with Android and let the apps come. I think they will in the end. Finally, what's the status of touchscreen input on Android? Last I knew it wasn't nearly as easy to accomplish eyes free data input through the touchscreen, and well, QWERTY keyboards on smartphones are going the way of the dodo.On 07/30/2010 12:42 PM, Bill Cox wrote:I wouldn't say it speaks "all" other menus, but it does seem pretty close. There are annoying gaps in some popular applications. The microphone icon on the search bar is not spoken, and neither are other icons on most other widgets. Some desktop widgets are not accessible at all. There's not quite enough of the right kind of information spoken, like what row and column you're on when browsing the desktop. However, the progress is very encouraging, and at some point I suspect blind programmers will get involved and progress will accelerate. What has to happen first is for Android to become the platform of choice for the blind. I think that will happen. Bill On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Alphonso McFadden <techsales2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:So does this mean it speaks all other menue's? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cox"<waywardgeek@xxxxxxxxx> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible? Hi, Bryan. Talkback in Android 2.2 is getting close to usable, but not quite there. The main problem remaining is that the browser and e-mail applications are not accessible, both of which I think use webkit. Work on making it accessible is underway. I think we can count on Google to get it where it needs to be, but I can't estimate the timeline. Bill On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Bryan Schulz<b.schulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:hi, i called a local at&t wireless store and most of what they sell are the android operating system.will mobile speak be created for this system or will there possibly be afree open source app to make these phones talk?i would like to get an unlocked phone with no monthly fee off ebay for alow talk time charge when needed solution. Bryan Schulz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave"<davidct1209@xxxxxxxxx> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 8:22 PM Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible?I'm relatively new to Android land as well, but from what I've done so far, yes, it's accessible depending on your experience. Android comes with a variety of development tools; there's, as you mentioned, a plugin for Eclipse to help streamline the development experience (auto generated project files). However, all of this can be done by hand via the Android SDK using command line tools. One can also specify UI elements within an AndroidManifest xml file. The learning curve isn't too bad as long as you are fairly comfortable with exploring the technology stack (from the tools, to the SDK, to the application concepts such as intents, broadcasts, services, etc. and finally to managing a real device such as flashing, rooting, etc.). Hth. On 7/29/10, David Engebretson Jr.<d.engebretson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:I asked the same question a week back or so and didn't get a response.Maybe we'll need to explore it together. try eyesfree.google.com cheers, david David Engebretson Jr., CTO Peace Weaver Hosting Need web hosting? Come visit us at PeaceWeaverHosting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Jaquiss"<rjaquiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 5:13 PM Subject: Is Android Programming Accessible?Hello: I am looking at a possible project that requires programming for an Android based device. Has anyone done this? My research to date indicates that Java is used with the Eclipse IDE and an Android SDK. 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