RE: Is Android Programming Accessible?
- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:02:45 -0400
I am sorry you are addicted to that thing called Face book but one thing I
like to use is APH rb 18 instead of a blue tooth keyboard because i get
Braille output and key input all in a packet the size of half a vcr tape it
fits fine in my man purse and It connects like a rocket.
If you want to hear more about it it was on Main menu tonight one of the
users made a you tube video of using RB 18 and the IPhone together so they
interviewed him.
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jay Macarty
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 6:54 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible?
While I think the touch keyboard on iOS 4 is somewhat better, I still had to
resort to getting the blueTooth keyboard to really feel comfortable with
things like facebook.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 5:23 PM
Subject: RE: Is Android Programming Accessible?
> See I have had an IPhone since the day it was accessible and as soon as
> there is a good android phone that has a keyboard and froyo default I am
> going to see if I can skip my IPhone across the Ohio. I know several of
> my
> friends that say Oh I can text just fine on my Iphone and my ITouch then I
> sit and watch them. It's like watching a blind mouse hunt for cheese in a
> room full of mouse traps. I can text on my IPhone and but I don't do it
> even 1/4 as much as I did on my nokia because it is ugly and painful.
>
>
>
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Wright
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 6:07 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible?
>
> I guess I don't really want to be restritcted to the devices with
> keyboards. The iPhone's onscreen keyboard is usable if, as everyone has
> to, you practice it a bit. Do you know if the situation on Android is
> anywhere near that? Would the Droid X, for instance, be a viable choice
> for the Android functionality you've described, presuming Version 2.2
> could be gotten onto it?
>
> On 07/30/2010 01:15 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
>> Yes and the speech input is even unbelievable . You could even talk to
> thee
>> thing and text if you want. The one thing I recommend is you wait till
>> there are some new handsets with keyboards. I have an old hand set but
>> it
>> has a keyboard and I have hacked it to have 2.2 on it. I am waiting
>> actually for the Ericson but it won't be out till probably 2011.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Wright
>> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 12:56 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible?
>>
>> Can it at least manage contacts, texts, and other base phone
>> functions adequately? I have to admit that I'm at this tough
>> crossroads. I can get myself a smartphone right now, and one smartphone
>> only. I feel I have enough knowledge to not just use Android
>> accessibility but to improve on it. That said, I can do all the fun
>> smartphone thingies with the iPhone today, right now, this minute. If I
>> could have an iPhone for today and have an Android to develop on for
>> tomorrow, that'd be ideal. But I haven't those types of funds and am a
>> poor con artist. *smile* If it can at least do what I've hacked together
>> on my present phone though, (that is make and receive calls with caller
>> identification, read call logs, review and edit contact information,
>> and handle SMS), I'd be more likely to just take the plunge with Android
>> and let the apps come. I think they will in the end. Finally, what's the
>> status of touchscreen input on Android? Last I knew it wasn't nearly as
>> easy to accomplish eyes free data input through the touchscreen, and
>> well, QWERTY keyboards on smartphones are going the way of the dodo.
>>
>>
>> On 07/30/2010 12:42 PM, Bill Cox wrote:
>>
>>> I wouldn't say it speaks "all" other menus, but it does seem pretty
>>> close. There are annoying gaps in some popular applications. The
>>> microphone icon on the search bar is not spoken, and neither are other
>>> icons on most other widgets. Some desktop widgets are not accessible
>>> at all. There's not quite enough of the right kind of information
>>> spoken, like what row and column you're on when browsing the desktop.
>>>
>>> However, the progress is very encouraging, and at some point I suspect
>>> blind programmers will get involved and progress will accelerate.
>>> What has to happen first is for Android to become the platform of
>>> choice for the blind. I think that will happen.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Alphonso McFadden
>>> <techsales2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> So does this mean it speaks all other menue's?
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cox"<waywardgeek@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 12:04 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Bryan. Talkback in Android 2.2 is getting close to usable, but
>>>> not quite there. The main problem remaining is that the browser and
>>>> e-mail applications are not accessible, both of which I think use
>>>> webkit. Work on making it accessible is underway. I think we can
>>>> count on Google to get it where it needs to be, but I can't estimate
>>>> the timeline.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Bryan Schulz<b.schulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> i called a local at&t wireless store and most of what they sell are
>>>>> the
>>>>> android operating system.
>>>>> will mobile speak be created for this system or will there possibly be
> a
>>>>> free open source app to make these phones talk?
>>>>> i would like to get an unlocked phone with no monthly fee off ebay for
> a
>>>>> low
>>>>> talk time charge when needed solution.
>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave"<davidct1209@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 8:22 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm relatively new to Android land as well, but from what I've done
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> far, yes, it's accessible depending on your experience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Android comes with a variety of development tools; there's, as you
>>>>>> mentioned, a plugin for Eclipse to help streamline the development
>>>>>> experience (auto generated project files).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, all of this can be done by hand via the Android SDK using
>>>>>> command line tools. One can also specify UI elements within an
>>>>>> AndroidManifest xml file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The learning curve isn't too bad as long as you are fairly
>>>>>> comfortable
>>>>>> with exploring the technology stack (from the tools, to the SDK, to
>>>>>> the application concepts such as intents, broadcasts, services, etc.
>>>>>> and finally to managing a real device such as flashing, rooting,
>>>>>> etc.).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/29/10, David Engebretson Jr.<d.engebretson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I asked the same question a week back or so and didn't get a
> response.
>>>>>>> Maybe we'll need to explore it together. try eyesfree.google.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>> david
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Engebretson Jr., CTO Peace Weaver Hosting
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>>>>>>> Come visit us at PeaceWeaverHosting.com
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Robert Jaquiss"<rjaquiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 5:13 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Is Android Programming Accessible?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am looking at a possible project that requires programming for an
>>>>>>>> Android based device. Has anyone done this? My research to date
>>>>>>>> indicates
>>>>>>>> that Java is used with the Eclipse IDE and an Android SDK.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Robert
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