Re: Best Java Guides for a Newby?

  • From: System Administrator <florianbeijers@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 18:58:35 +0200

Hi,

This might sound very obvious , stupid and newbie-ish but why don't you just 
convert the thing to plain text?

Florian
On Jul 6, 2011, at 6:47 PM, qubit wrote:

> Hi Jim -- That is what I hoped to find in the TIJ book.  It purports to 
> discuss rather tutorially how to build a program in java, which, he claims, 
> is the only language designed for the purpose of making OO programming easy 
> and natural for the programmer. (Other languages he claims are terse and 
> crammed with features that are confusing to many newbies.)
> I am not trying to sell his book.  I am annoyed that it seems to crash my 
> system before it finishes loading.
> --le
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Homme, James
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 11:36 AM
> Subject: RE: Best Java Guides for a Newby?
> 
> Hi,
> I think that, as with many things, this is one of those things that can be    
> different, depending on the learning style and knowledge of the person.   
>  
> Speaking just for myself, I get more out of tutorial style books, when I'm 
> learning a language. I tend to freeze up at reference type material that is 
> full of code and short on words, but that's my taste.
>  
> According to me, you will probably do well with the nutshell books, if you 
> already know lots of programming concepts and want to see how certain things 
> are done in Java. On the other hand, you may do better if you have little 
> programming experience by looking at the Java Tutorial, which takes things a 
> concept at a time and explains them with lots of words and examples. You can 
> see that at http://download.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/reallybigindex.html.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Jim
>  
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of qubit
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:30 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Best Java Guides for a Newby?
>  
> I would recommend if you have a subscription to bookshare.org, that you 
> download a copy of "Java in a Nutshell".  It is a nice summary of features 
> with some examples.  I was going to read "Thinking in Java, 4th edition", 
> which I forked $25 for online, but got a package that I cann't display on my 
> system.  I have been unable to read more than the preface, and most the time, 
> the html just freezes things.  So I'm pitching it.  A shame as it sounds like 
> a useful guide to using java the way it is meant to be used.
>  
> Online there are also common tasks implemented in java, which you can find in 
> http://commons.apache.org/
> Good luck and happy hacking.
> --le
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Florian Beijers
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:44 AM
> Subject: Re: Best Java Guides for a Newby?
>  
> Hello Brandon,
>  
> Do you have any form of IM or perhaps skype? I would like to help you but 
> it's easier for me to recommend something if i know a bit more about your 
> background. 
>  
> Florian
> On Jul 6, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Brandon Keith (Biggs) wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> I'm new to programming, (I have just made it past "Hello World") and am 
> looking for some guides.
> I would like to learn Java, but I'm not quite sure where to start. I 
> downloaded the 500 or so documents from the "Java Documentation" at:
> http://www.nonvisualdevelopment.org/node/20
> as well as reading all the tutorials on Eclipse and Java.
> I've installed the SDK 1.6 and Eclipse, is there anything else I need? I see 
> there are Jaws scripts for Eclipse, where do I insert those?
> I arrowed through the 500 documents dealing with Java and found:
> Java Tutorial 3rd Edition, a short course on the basics
> but I see it was written in 2001 and only deals with Java 1.3 and Windows 
> 2000 and before. Is this something I should read? What books best describe 
> the language in an exciting and useful format? I'm wanting to eventually 
> program for Android, but I think that is stepping a little ahead of myself.
> Where do I start?
> Thanks,
>  
> Brandon Keith Biggs
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