RE: Best Java Guides for a Newby?

  • From: "Homme, James" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 13:27:49 -0400

Hi Laura,
Man, I truly dislike getting into my language is better than yours on this 
list. I'll couch this in a purely personal tone. As many on this list are tired 
of hearing by now, I have struggled to get into learning Object Orientation for 
some time now. I have no idea why this is happening for me, but Python seems to 
be the language that is making things come together for me more than when I was 
messing with Java. And guess what. One of the books I'm reading says that 
Python is the easiest to help people get over what I'm dealing with. I have 
more gaping holes than I do computer science knowledge, so take that with a 
totally personal grain of salt. Speaking of which, I found a site that explains 
English sayings. http://www.phrases.org.uk

Jim
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of qubit
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:47 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Best Java Guides for a Newby?

Hi Jim -- That is what I hoped to find in the TIJ book.  It purports to discuss 
rather tutorially how to build a program in java, which, he claims, is the only 
language designed for the purpose of making OO programming easy and natural for 
the programmer. (Other languages he claims are terse and crammed with features 
that are confusing to many newbies.)
I am not trying to sell his book.  I am annoyed that it seems to crash my 
system before it finishes loading.
--le

----- Original Message -----
From: Homme, James<mailto:james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: Best Java Guides for a Newby?

Hi,
I think that, as with many things, this is one of those things that can be 
different, depending on the learning style and knowledge of the person.

Speaking just for myself, I get more out of tutorial style books, when I'm 
learning a language. I tend to freeze up at reference type material that is 
full of code and short on words, but that's my taste.

According to me, you will probably do well with the nutshell books, if you 
already know lots of programming concepts and want to see how certain things 
are done in Java. On the other hand, you may do better if you have little 
programming experience by looking at the Java Tutorial, which takes things a 
concept at a time and explains them with lots of words and examples. You can 
see that at http://download.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/reallybigindex.html.

Thanks.

Jim

From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of qubit
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:30 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Best Java Guides for a Newby?

I would recommend if you have a subscription to bookshare.org, that you 
download a copy of "Java in a Nutshell".  It is a nice summary of features with 
some examples.  I was going to read "Thinking in Java, 4th edition", which I 
forked $25 for online, but got a package that I cann't display on my system.  I 
have been unable to read more than the preface, and most the time, the html 
just freezes things.  So I'm pitching it.  A shame as it sounds like a useful 
guide to using java the way it is meant to be used.

Online there are also common tasks implemented in java, which you can find in 
http://commons.apache.org/
Good luck and happy hacking.
--le

----- Original Message -----
From: Florian Beijers<mailto:florianbeijers@xxxxxxxxx>
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: Best Java Guides for a Newby?

Hello Brandon,

Do you have any form of IM or perhaps skype? I would like to help you but it's 
easier for me to recommend something if i know a bit more about your background.

Florian
On Jul 6, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Brandon Keith (Biggs) wrote:

Hello,
I'm new to programming, (I have just made it past "Hello World") and am looking 
for some guides.
I would like to learn Java, but I'm not quite sure where to start. I downloaded 
the 500 or so documents from the "Java Documentation" at:
http://www.nonvisualdevelopment.org/node/20
as well as reading all the tutorials on Eclipse and Java.
I've installed the SDK 1.6 and Eclipse, is there anything else I need? I see 
there are Jaws scripts for Eclipse, where do I insert those?
I arrowed through the 500 documents dealing with Java and found:
Java Tutorial 3rd Edition, a short course on the basics
but I see it was written in 2001 and only deals with Java 1.3 and Windows 2000 
and before. Is this something I should read? What books best describe the 
language in an exciting and useful format? I'm wanting to eventually program 
for Android, but I think that is stepping a little ahead of myself.
Where do I start?
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

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